Cannot get bike into neutral with engine running but can find neutral fine with engine off
After storing for the winter i could not find neutral with the engine running, adjusted clutch pack and cable but still cannot shift to neutral with engine running, engine off no problem. replaced primary oil and adjusted chain(oil was dark but still had oil smell), noticed that the cable adjuster is really close to the end of its travel. does this mean i should replace clutch discs and steels or have i maybe not adjusted the clutch properly(loosened the clutch cable adjuster right off, loosened pack bolt then screwed in until i could feel tension and out 1/2 turn) , if yes is there anything i should know about to replace discs and steels? this is a 96 softail custom.
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Well, there is still a chance that what you have is a stretched cable, not a thin clutch pack. I'd at least try rigging a spacer inline with the cable to see if more cable travel helps! Good luck, let me know where you go from here, and I'll follow this question. THanks, TT
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Actually when the key is turned on all the "dash" lights come on neutral, oil, temp and what ever else as soon as the bike starts the lights will go out. If the lights come on while the engine is running then you have a problem or it's in neutral "green".
For the bike not starting a few things, first off the battery even though you say it's new may have been sitting on the shelf for a while and they do loose power so it may need charging. The newer bikes the headlight light comes on when the key is turned on which robs the starting system of power to turn the starter, the batteries need to be good on these bikes or it's just not going to work. If the headlight comes on and looks yellow or amber then there isn't enough power in the battery. If it's a nice bright white light then there is power and the starter may need to be serviced.
If the bike has been sitting over the winter I'd guess the battery has just lost power and requires charging.
Well...normally with most bikes...neutral indication is only needed to start the bike while its on the sidestand.
Even though it is in neutral because it doesn't indicate it, you need to have the sidestand up, and the clutch lever pulled in to attempt a start. Make sure kil switch is set to Run.
If it does start....because of no neutral indication, it should kill the engine as soon as you try to set the sidestand down.
If it will start and run....to look for the neutral indication issue, you need to trace the harness going to the neutral switch (or gear indication switch depending on make and model).
Any chance of rodent damage to wiring while stored....just seems odd the neutral light worked before...and now it doesn't. My experience is with Yamaha, and they usually grounded the neutral circuit at the switch, so you need all wiring connections secure and no wire breaks to get neutral indication, and satisy the interlocks.
If you used the choke to start the bike last winter, you probably fouled the plugs. Depending on the age of the plugs, you can either clean and re-gap them or replace them with new, which also have to be checked for gap.
Secondly, if you did not run the bike out of fuel after starting it, chances are you have some build up in the carb jets. New, clean fuel and Techron or Seafoam gas treatment will help if it's not too bad. Follow directions on the can. I personally used Seafoam but Techron is recommended by Honda. Be sure to mix per instructions, which on Seafoam is 1 oz. per gal.
Try entering neutral from 2nd instead of 1st. Most bikes will find neutral alot easier with the engine off. My Kawasaki has a positive neutral finder which i love....but i have owned 48 bikes and had more than a few stubborn ones....Try rocking forward and backward as you gently toe tap your lever in the direction of neutral....be patient and you'll get better at it...Good Luck to you friend...Tim
Are all wires clean and with a solid connections? Check the loom. Any abraded wires? Check the operation of the ignition switch with a volt ohmmeter. Is the bike in neutral and the neutral light is lit up? If no neutral light, check the neutral switch and neutral switch wire on center casing. DickCanFixIt asked good questions. What are the answers? Please rate this solution. Thanks
If your brake fluid is in need of changing, do so before long-term storage. Similarly, hydraulic clutch fluid should be changed before you store your bike; both systems may suffer failure if moisture gets in.
Also make sure your coolant is fresh, as deposits can form from old fluid. For service intervals, consult your owner's manual.