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New top end but no compression or very little

Has great blue spark and fuel but compression seems weak switched from 280 kit back to 249 cc on a wr 250 fp 2002 bike was running put in new piston now wont start even when dragged around did update to auto compression cam any help would be appreciated

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Sounds like you have the crank to cam timing incorrect.  Also you may have the valves set too tight.  Dose it pop and sputter?

  • Anonymous Jan 30, 2012

    No the bike does not sputter at all it just runs like a 125 it starts 1st or second kick everytime but compression is low i checked all clearences and ring gap not sure what else too try anymore.

  • Anonymous Jan 30, 2012

    Depending on the kit, simply changing from a 249cc to a 288cc may not give an increase in compression. Have you checked the compression with a compression gauge? You have added a 30cc increase, less than a weed wacker displacement.
    If you have the same carb and jets you most likely won't see much of an improvement, if any. Plus, some bikes are restricted by the exhaust system to keep the power down. This you may want to also check. I've never heard of an auto compression cam. Because a cam doesn't effect the compression, only the timing.

    Good luck.

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