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1998 Honda CB750 battery dead sometimes for no apparent reason

Possibly a bad stator in alt ? i put the battery on a tender everynight most days np but every once in a while i can start it a few times with np and ride it np then shut it off and when i try to start it again it needs a jump. also sometimes at idle the headlight dims, and also sometimes the neutral light doesnt come on when im in neutral. im stumped if not the stator .

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  • prankganker Mar 11, 2009

    battery is brand new. luckily i have a meter im an electrician lol. i just got a service manual guess ima have to follow the charging system inspection flow chart in it and test it all one at a time. i wish it wasnt the stator that things expensive !!! i already priced it as i figured that might be the problem. anyways thanks for the input ;)

  • Anonymous Mar 25, 2014

    The speedometer doesn't normally work it just shows a zero. Sometimes it will work when I start it then ride other times it will come on mid ride. It works really whenever it pleases doesn't seem to be much reason behind it.

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Sounds like a bad charging stator circuit.  May be a bad rectifier or voltage regulator.  You need a multimeter to check each component.  It also simply could be a bad battery.

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