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Re: Honda Deauville will not start.
Hi and welcome to FixYa,
The click is significant.
It indicates that the starting relay is engaging but for some reason,
the starter motor is not cranking. This could either be a faulty
starter relay (particularly the contacts) or a faulty starter motor (specifically, the carbon brushes). To determine which:
with the side covers off, expose the starter relay particularly the 2 large terminals;
have somebody start the bike normally using the key and button start switch;
determine if indeed the clicking is coming from the starter relay;
while the start button is still pressed, jump the 2 big terminals;
if the engine cranks, then the internal contacts of the starter relay are corroded or burned;
if the engine will not crank, then the starter motor is faulty or it can not turn the engine..
A few additional ideas:
externally charge the battery;
drain the tank and carbs of stale fuel;
refill with fresh fuel;
remove the plugs, center stand the bike, engage 1st gear, rotate rear wheel to exercise engine.
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it sound like a starter issue if you rock it your effecting starter engagement try tapping on the starter while your trying to start it in nuetral if you hear a change in the starter you know that's the issue. ( the starter)
The possibilities are many in a cold start problem such as you have listed. First the battery even though it appears to be working my be low in actual cranking power. If the battery is five years old or older this is a great possibility. What happens id the battery turns the starter with every once of power it has but leaves no power to operate the electronic ignition. If the battery is newer then another possibility is a dirty starter motor drawing more power then "normal" there for depriving the ignition. Also don't forget that the starter, engine oil and state of battery charge are all affected by the cold, just turning the engine over with the starter can kill a motorcycle battery is a few crank. Motorcycles are heavily warm weather bias so, it wasn't designed or built to run cold. The engine oil you run in summer months is a higher viscosity then what should be used in colder weather. My Honda Magna 750 at +8c can be just ignorant to start and also needs a long warm up time before pulling away. So my "Rule of Thumb" now is when the temperature reaches +10c I park the motorcycle.
Take your battery to a dealer or auto store and have it load tested. You may have a cracked cell in the battery so it has a full charge but it will not transfer the power. You could also take a car battery(12 volt) and hook it to the bike. If the bike acts normal on the when attached to the other battery, your bike battery is the culprit. If you jump the starter solenoid (short from the battery terminal to the starter terminal) and the starter works you have a bad solenoid. If you hold the starter button and tap the starter with a plastic hammer and the starter works, you have bad starter brushes. If there is anything else wrong the starter replace it with a complete new assembly , Honda does not sell the parts needed to fix the starter
put a volt meter across the battery terminals, should read over 12v stopped and rise to 13.5v with the engine running.
If the voltage doesnt rise there is a problem with the charging circuit.
Be carefull starting from a car, as this can cause damage to the bikes electrics, as the bike tries to produce enough amps to charge up the car when the bike starts, and overcook electrics.
Start with making sure the battery terminals are clean. Then make sure the battery is fully charged. When that is in place try again, even if you jump it to another bike. Follow where the click is actually coming from, is it the relay or is it from the starter motor. Your problem is 98% caused but either a battery that is had it, (not holding charge) or a dicky starter motor. Having a manual will not go astray, I couldn't find one to suit your model, but you are welcome to fossick around. They are freebies: http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp
It's one of these things: The battery. Especially if you're still using the original one, which is now almost 10 years old. The charging system. Or the starter relay.
Even if your battery isn't 10 years old, if it has sat for more than a month or so without being charged, then it is toast. A fully charged 12 volt battery should show about 13.5 volts on a volt meter.
If the battery is good, then you will need to find out if the charging system is working. To do this, you will need an ampere meter capable of reading up to 10 amps. Start the engine and THEN hook the amp meter in series between the battery (either side) and the cable going to the battery. With the engine revved up to around 4,000 RPM, the charging system should be putting out at least 5~6 amps.
If it isn't the charging system or the battery, check for a bad starter relay (the thing that makes that buzzing sound when you hit the starter button). Perform this test by bridging across the two large cable connections on the top of the relay with a large screwdriver. If the starter spins when you do this, then you've got a faulty starter relay. If the starter doesn't spin, then you've got a bad starter motor or a bad electrical connection going to it.
The clicking sound is the starter relay - which could be the reason the electric starter isn't working. To test, locate the relay and use a large screwdriver to bridge the two large cables attached to the top of it. If the starter spins the engine over when you do this, it most likely means that the starter relay needs to be replaced.
If the starter doesn't spin, then you've likely got a bad starter motor, or a bad connection going between the relay and the starter.
Hi, Your problem lies with the starter solenoid, although you maybe using a fully charged battery to jump it, it appears to be sticking or possibly faulty due to trying to start with poor battery.
The starter solenoid is usually located on or near the Battery compartment, it is cylindrical and has two heavy wires attached to it 1 goes to the starter motor the other to the battery. If you are carefull you can by pass the solenoid by touching the heavy wire going to the starter motor with the jumper lead. Make sure the jump battery is connected and both the NEGATIVE leads are well secure. Put the NEGATIVE lead from jump cable direct to a engine mount bolt or engine itself Not the battery.
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