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Posted on Feb 12, 2009

4 way flashers flash 5 times when ingition switch is turned on

When I turn the ignition switch the flashers flash 5 times. Just started doing this

  • hopsjr Feb 26, 2009

    same problem, no security system. bike will run rough then die. then will run fine for 100 plus miles then repeat.

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Do you have the security system on the bike? If so this is the system working and it needs to be reset.

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