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Posted on Jan 13, 2009

The brake pedal on my mule goes to the floor

I am not sure what model mule I have and my brake pedal goes to the floor.

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I have brakes if i pump the pedal have bleed the brakes from the far back to the other side to front and done
fill master cylinder////


still have no brakes unless i pump them up
any ideas????? done all i know to do
and still dont work
new shoes on the back

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    have new brakes on the rear // still does not work and fluid is full

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You can check you brake fluid level, if low refill. if that dont work you would have to check if you need new brakes.

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