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2004 Honda CR 125 R clutch slipping

Bought new friction plates...filed the grooves from the basket... but the clutch still slips badly. Could it be the oil or time for whole new clutch assembly? Or any other ideas??@

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Hi, Phillip and the usual suspects are:
1. Clutch controls improperly adjusted.
2. Insufficient clutch spring tension.
3. Friction discs or steel discs are worn or warped past specs.
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Just had mine replaced with only 15000 miles on it Friction plates were fine but the metal plates were glazed and worped.Like a new bike all-over again.,

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Your clutch plates have lasted 25 years. It is probably time to get some new plates. Have your dealer get you a set of Barnett clutch plates.

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I would use maxima mt 75w gear oil in all 2-stroke trans.

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Six yrs, is a long time. You really should change the oil. Oil also breaks down like gasoline does. Wet clutches require an oil containing certan sdditives. Old or regular motor oil is not well tolerated. Make sure you have free play on the clutch lever., about 1/8 in. - good luck- Ned

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I am pretty sure Suzuki recommends 10W30. I agree with you - if everything else is good then I would try a different oil.

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.25" is more than enough to release the clutch - if this is measured at the "hat" (pressure plate) of the clutch pack.

Most of these kinds of clutch problems are caused by two or three things: Incorrect oil, rusted plates or a notched clutch basket. There is nothing in the clutch pack to separate the clutch discs. The springs on the pressure plate push the stack together and pulling the lever relaxes this pressure, but nothing actually spreads them away from eachother.

If you use SAE motor oil for the transmission you will experience stiction - the suction caused by the oil is enough to keep the discs stuck to eachother pretty tightly. When cold, the stiction can be pretty strong.

If you take off in first then pull the clutch in and rev the engine, will it release then or will it pull just as hard as normal?

Have you blown your water pump seal? Water in the cases can rust the plates pretty quickly which can lock a clutch up tight. Something else to look for.

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A clutch disc should be smooth on the surface, no groove cut into it by the friction plate. If you can catch a finger nail on it, it's bad.
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When it's idling and you put it into gear, does it kill the engine?

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but it was not as deep as the original. Did the older bikes have a sallower basket. Mine is a 2005 and holds 8 fibers and 7 steel plates. I can't find any partd lists for the older bikes on the web. First a question. Are you using the original clutch fiber plates and friction disks or, did you get a new pack of plates and disks to go with the new basket. I'll explain my question below. The clutch on the 125 is sort of touchy. I tried various configurations, mainly using all steel drive plates, instead of the combination of steel and aluminum. I was only able to make it work properly using the OEM GG configuration. The 125 uses a different clutch than the larger bikes. (The 200's clutch basket has a different gear on the back, but otherwise it's clutch is the same as the larger bikes.) Make sure your replacement clutch disks & plates are not for the larger bikes. (I recently saw an ebay seller's auction that claimed to be a clutch rebuild kit for the GasGas bikes. It only had 7 friction disks. ) The original clutch for the 125 Gasser had a combination of aluminum and steel drive plates. The friction plates were all the same. The 2005 parts book lists them as being 3 iron disks and 4 aluminum disks. (In my memory, I thought it was 4 steel and 3 aluminum.) If you download and look at the parts book, http://www.gasgasmotos.es/rcs/manual...emotorec05.zip , the 125 clutch is on one of the last pages of the book. (page 48 of 50) BTW. I still have a new OEM GasGas 125 clutch pack in my stock; if anyone is interested. (side note: The clutch push rod for the 125 is only a few dollars. The clutch push rod for the larger bikes is in the $35 range.),,,

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