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Starting troubles i have a 2000 600 suzuki katana that i believe the timing on the cams is set on the exhaust stroke instead of the compression sroke can you tell me how to set the cam timing

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  • rk_205 Dec 12, 2008

    well i know the engine was rebuilt but i am not sure how or who did it i bought the engine off e-bay for 250 and it has been balanced and blue printed and thanks for your input i will try this this evening and i will let you know how it turns out

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Did you over haul the engine? If so please tell me how you set the cam timing. Did you install the int cam first? and there is a sequence for installing the cams. You need to make sure that at TDC on #1 cly both lobes of the int and exh cams are pointed down. There are dots on the cam gears that will line up parallel with the head when the cams are installed correctly.

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