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Anonymous Posted on Jul 14, 2012

Backfires and misses, runs really rich

4 liter engine, have replaced plugs,coil pack,EEC

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You have a bad (leaking) fuel injector-maybe more than one...

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ANDY PLUMB

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SOURCE: rough running, erratic spark

Run a compression test on the cylinders.If reading is low on any drop a little engine oil into the pot. If compression rises you have compession ring problems. Remove all plugs before you try this and place leads away from engine.

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  • Posted on May 31, 2009

SOURCE: Ford EEC-IV Ignition Problem

if you have a set of noid lights check for injector pulse if you do not have pulse and no spark you have a bad pick up (hall effect sensor) inside the distributor this also would account for your prior problem with your timing because this pick- up (hall effect sensor) if it starts to short internally can effect ignition timing and missfires and also for the voltage changes

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 09, 2009

SOURCE: ford mustang - year 2000 - 3.8 liter. The coil pack is out?

I replaced the coil pack to no avail. I also purchase a code reader while at the auto parts store. This device told me cylinder 3 was misfiring (P0303). I found that the spark plug wire had shorted out on the manifold sensor tubes. Replaced that wire and done.

I highly recommend keeping a code reader in your car tool kit. very useful.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 04, 2010

SOURCE: my 2000 f150 4x4 runs rich, miss fires and only

adjust valves or mite have a blown valve

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  • Posted on Apr 06, 2012

SOURCE: 2001 ford taurus p0301 and p0303

Hi, i got a 97 ford taurus lx 6 cyl. anyways, i got a flashing engine light n i have misfires in cylinders 2, 3 n 4 n it is running rich. i get many codes. im getting ready to take a long trip n move to michigan so im trying to figure out the problem with my car. we have replaced the injectors,plugs ,wires,fuel filter, going to try to change the coil pk n put new mufflers on it. can anyone help me with this issue on my car. im a disabled lady needing help..thank u....

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Insert each wire on the proper terminal of the ignition coil. Ensure that the coil boots are fully seated and both locking tabs are engaged. The terminals are identified on the ignition coils. Install wires as shown in the illustration. The 2.3L firing order is 1-3-4-2 for both ignition coil assemblies.

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Coil pack keeps going bad,

Your problem sounds like an intermittent short in the power feed to the coil pack from the EEC module
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