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I've noticed the starter drive gear does not stay engaged On the E-Drive starter with the flywheel if the engine does not start as in the older Prestolite style starters. Why?

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The old Prestolite and Delco-Remey starters had the Bendix gear engage by being "thrown" foward with a twist to engage the ring gear on the engine. To disengage the Bendix gear from the engine ring gear the engine needed to turn faster than the starter to disengage. The newer style gets trown in with starter engagement and is made so it disengages when power to the starter is removed.

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Becausethe starter drive gear disengages after each starting attempt, the engine ismuch easier to hand prop should the battery be too low to provide normalstarting voltage. Though we do not recommend had-propping an engine, it doesoccasionally still happen in the field.

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