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With Key switch in on position I have no power to ignition

When the the key switch is in the on position, I have no head lights, no running lights, no istrument lights on the dash, and no ignition. I do have blinkers, hazard lights, brake lights, horn and radio. I checked all the fuses and the main fuse.
Prior to this problem I installed new brake pads on the rear. I did not try to start the bike before working on it that day. The bike had been sitting in the garage for 3 or 4 days prior to this. Was running fine then.

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  • josh pinkham Jan 14, 2009

    sounds like to me you are getting the lights and power thats in the handle bars wires but not what is tucked(or used to be)into the headlight assembly...but i would look over the wires to see if you got any loose connections you know the battery is good and you get partal power,and you checkd the fuses assigned to the parts not working so it sounds like there is either a loose connection or one of the problem parts not getting power is shorting out?...let me know if it helps..im new here and got help for my car so i try to help out

  • grk666 Mar 31, 2009

    I have the same problem with my 1991 goldwing se i have checked all fuses the bike was off the road for winter first ride the bike started ok

    but no dash info lights ect switchted off engine then no ignition any ideas thanks.

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Check for any shorts other than that it should be fine cant think of any thing else

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