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Wont start on button

Starts every time with wire from battery positive terminal to small terminal on the starter solonoid.
Battery voltage 11.5v on bike computer, but 12.5v with voltmeter

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  • donaldkiltie Nov 26, 2008

    Definitely not a fuse, have heard low battery makes ECU shut the starter system down without the starter trying to engage, which is why my bypass works the down side is the automatic cold start doesn't cut in during cold weather. Will keep looking as some-one else must have had the same happen to them.

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Hello, I have a 2003 dr650se and it wont start using the electric start. it will bump start and run fine until you kill the motor then it wont start it just clicks. the battery is fine. is there a cut


I think your bike has 2 anti start switches the side stand and the clutch lever. You state it bump starts runs fine then clicks when you try to restart. The clicking is the starter solenoid which would indicate the battery has not enough cranking power to turn the starter motor. Check battery voltage must be above 12.5. remove battery (undo negative lead first). Wire a 21 watt bulb to the battery and see if it dims within a small period of time. If it remains bright try charging the battery only use a dedicated bike charger (less than 1 amp out put). Do not use a car charger ever. When the battery is fully charged refit to bike (refit positive lead first). Try to start the bike again. If it fails to start bump start it and check the voltage across the battery is should be about 14 to 14.5 volts. If low volts at the battery with the engine running your charging circuit is not working correctly. If the volts are good I would try another battery. They sometimes give false reading to chargers when a cell or 2 short out.

Sep 30, 2014 | 2012 Suzuki DR 650SE

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Moto Guzzi breva 1100 won't start clicks at relay.


Take a look at the starter solenoid. There are two larger wires, on the back. One from the battery positive, (main hot wire), the other goes to the starter motor (If you jump these terminals the starter will spin but will not engage the flywheel). Look at the wires and nuts on the solenoid, especially the starter motor side make sure they are clean and tight, have not gotten hot and started rusting. Also check the voltage on the solenoid wire, (smallest) wire from the start button. In some cases there is a voltage loss on this wire. Next time it will not engage the starter right away, make a jump from the main power battery terminal on the starter to the solenoid wire. If it starts right up every time, you need to add and wire in another relay to carry the voltage to the solenoid from the start button, (a relay to work the solenoid, lol). If that test does not work or help.. Tap on the starter motor with a hammer. if it catches and turns the engine then, the motor brushes are worn and need to be replaced.

Sep 25, 2011 | 2005 Moto Guzzi Breva V 1100

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I changed solonoid on starter. The cap on old one cracked so it needed replaced. Put new one on, now starter stays runningafter bike has started. I don't understand? Same solonoid. Shouldn't it...


Check to see if the wire that connects to the small terminal on the back of the solenoid is touching the larger terminal where the battery cable to the starter goes. If this happens, when the solenoid activates, it will feed voltage to the small wire and hold the starter engaged even though the button is no longer being pushed. A short circuit between the small terminal and the large terminal going to the starter.

Good Luck
Steve

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How to wire a starter selenoid


Here is how you think of it: The solenoid is a switch, in terms of the wiring. One big cable in, from the battery needs to connect to one big going out. These two terminals are larger and have a different size fastener and washer, than "the smaller one(s).

So a solenoid is an electromagnetic switch that in normally open (not allowing current between the contacts).
WHEN you put a voltage to the smaller terminal, the magnet energizes, and contact is made between the two big terminals, stop the voltage to this small terminal and the switch opens.

So, some soleniods have two smaller terminals. The puropse of the 2nd smaller terminal is to allow more voltage to be directed to the coil, only during starter engaugement. The reason for this is voltage to the coil has to be reduced, during normal operation, but this would not be enough during starting.

So, like an analog clock face, most are oriented as follows. 12 o'clock position is battery cable heavy in, 6 o'clock position is heavy out to the starter, 2 o'clock position is switch energize, and 10 o'clock position is coil feed out (light).

I figure the battery cable and starter out wires are self evident, by size. IF you were to reverse the light two wires, nothing happens, and no damage, reverse to the correct position and off you go.

Mar 31, 2011 | 1980 Yamaha XS 650 G

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84 goldwing aspencade 1200a while cranking motor ran battery down ..charged back up now turn ignition on apply clutch hit the starter button and nothing have heard a click in the resistor a couple of...


If you heard a click when the starter button was pressed but the starter did not run then the problem most likely lies with the starter solenoid or the starter itself. Check the starter itself by connecting a heavy jumper cable from the positive of the battery to the terminal on the starter motor. If the starter cranks, then the starter is okay and the problem is the solenoid switch.

When performing the above check, first make sure the bike is in neutral or the clutch lever is pulled. When you make the connection with the jumper cable there may be some sparking because the starter draws a lot of amps.

To check the solenoid there should be 3 or 4 terminals on it. There will be one or two terminals that have smaller wire/s attached and there will be two larger ones that have a positive wire from the battery attached and the other one connects to the starter positive terminal. Connect the negative terminal of a dc voltmeter to the bike frame and the positive lead to the terminal on the solenoid with the small wire attached. (If there are two small wires, one of them connects to ground and the other one comes from the starter button.) If you observe 12 volts at this solenoid when you attempt to start the engine the the problem is in the solenoid or starter. Since we already checked the starter then the problem would have the be inside the solenoid switch.

IF YOU DO NOT see 12 volts at the small terminal/s of the solenoid when you attempt to start the engine then the problem is an open in the wiring path between the battery positive and the solenoid switch. This could be the ignition switch, a loose, broken or burned wire, neutral or clutch interlock switch or anything else in that wiring path that is open.

Mar 17, 2011 | 1984 Honda GL 1200 Aspencade Gold Wing

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Bike wont start press the start button and nothing happens


Follow the positive battery cable to the starter solenoid. Unplug the two small wires going to the solenoid and use a voltage meter to see if you have continuity when you press the starter button. If you do not, clean the starter button or replace the switch assembly. If you jump the two cable terminals on the solenoid and the starter cranks, you have a bad solenoid. If you hold the starter button and tap the starter with a plastic hammer and the starter works, you need new starter brushes. Any other problem with the starter and you will need to buy a new assembly.

Oct 02, 2010 | 2007 Suzuki GSX-R 750

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1979 harley won't start .... nothing happens at all when i try to start it


If your bike isn't doing anything, it sounds like you may have something wired up incorrectly. Didn't I send you a wiring schematic for that bike off forum?

Anyway, to start off trouble shooting the problem, take a test light and touch the small terminal on the end of the starter solenoid. When you press the start button, you should have power there. If so, you have something wrong with your starter solenoid.

If you do not have any voltage at this point, you may have a problem with the starter relay. The relay should be a round relay with three terminal connections on it as well. When you turn the switch on, the large terninal with the two red wires on it should have voltage on it. Now, there are two other wires that go on the relay and both are black. When you press the start button, one of the black wires should have voltage on it. This wire should go to the small terminal on the relay. The other black wires runs from the remaining large terminal on the starter relay to the small terminal on the starter solenoid.

When you press the start button, the black wire running to the small terminal on the starter relay goes "hot" and energizes the relay. When the relay closes, the large terminal with the black wire on it goes "hot" sending voltage to the small terminal on the starter solenoid. This energizes the solenoid and pulls in the starter motor.

On the starter solenoid, there are two large terminals. The longer terminal is where the large battery cable connects. The shorter large terminal is where the cable that runs to the starter connects.

Check all of this and let me know what you find and we'll go from there.

Steve

Jul 24, 2010 | 1979 Harley Davidson XLH 1000 Sportster

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Big red honda 300cc 4 wheeler. Starter solonoid just clicks. Battery fully charged. solonoid has 2 wires from battery and a long double wire sealed into the solonoid. Question: How do you replace the...


if you can pull the rubber cover off the solenoid you will see two nuts that are the cable terminals, short across these with a screwdriver or similar(may make a spark) if this causes the starter to turn you probably need a solenoid. You could also try a multi meter or test light on the terminal to the starter, it should have power when you press the start button, if not , new solenoid. to change it disconnect the battery , undo the two cable nuts, and follow the other wire back to its connecter

Apr 25, 2010 | Honda XR 400 Motard Motorcycles

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2002 Suzuki GSX 600 F runs good when starts but now it wont start


Take a test light or multimeter and check if
power is getting to the starter each
time you push your starter button.

If so, the solenoid or starter relay is okay.

If not, then find the relay, it is at
the end of the battery positive wire.
It may be under the side cover or
under the seat.

Use your test light again and
see if power is on both sides
of the relays larger terminals when
you push your button (key on of course).
You should hear the solenoid or relay
click. It connects the positive
battery terminal to the starter
to make it run.

If it doesn't click or pass the power through
then check if power gets to it's
smaller wire when you push the button.
If not, could be the button, or
possibly something like a
bad side stand switch or engine
stop switch.

Aug 21, 2009 | 1993 Suzuki GSX 600 F (Katana)

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ELECTRICS PROBLEM


i get nothing from the starter motor but the battery starts to smoke slightly. Havent got a clue what the problem is now as it was fine yesterday. Sorter suggests that something is shorting somewhere but god nos where. All other eletrics are fine lights netutral etc two starter motors and same with both.,probably starter solonoid or the wire between the solonoid and starter motor shorted to earth. Possibly starter relay or starter button but unlikely cos I would expect that to blow the fuse. Disconnect wire 20 (black) from the starter solonoid and see if the battery smokes again when you press the button, or disconnect the wire at both ends and use a multimeter on a low resistance range and measure each end of it to the negative terminal on the battery. It should read open circuit - ie. a very high resistance or no continuity. If it reads low - ie. <5 ohms - the wire is either fouling the frame and shorting out, or has melted thru because it is touching the exhaust. If it reads high and you start to over heat the battery then the solonoid is almost certainly short doen to earth somewhere. I'm gonna hazard a guess and go for the wire touching the exhaust scenario....so to save time and effort just have a look through the gap between the belly pan and radiator if you can and see if you can spot the wire touching the downpipe.,,,

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