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Is black clutch fluid due to condensation?

Had my bike taken into the dealer yesterday to get the hose clips done after leaking coolant all over my garage floor. The guy from the breakdown service pointed out to me that my clutch fluid was black. To be honest I hadn't noticed (got it from new in April and done 3K since). He then said Look at this and took the cap off the reservoir. There was condensation on the rubber seal inside. He said that it was a very common in Tuonos and it's the condensation that turns the fluid black. (He used to work in an Aprilia dealers

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He said so I assume that he knew his stuff). He suggested Castrol synthetic clutch fluid which is less succeptible. Any views on this? Anyone heard this before? I've had a look and it seems that dark fluid is common but people here seem to see it as being due to other things. The main thing I guess is DO I HAVE TO BE CONCERNED or shall I just leave it alone. Is there any problem with it? ,Discolouring of the clutch fluid is a well known Aprilia trait caused by the seal in the clutch slave. I believe some people have lubbed this seal but the majority just leave the fluid and change it when required. Mine has gone black on both Aprilias I've owned; if you replace the fluid it'll probably be black within a couple of months. The problem is not water; Most clutch / brake fluids may be hygroscopic but absorbing water doesn't turn it black. ,,,

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How do I bleed the clutch?

Bleeding the clutch is similar to bleeding brakes, only easier. Take the lid of the clutch master cylinder, on the clutch side. If it's leaking, check for cracks. Also check the rubber seal inside the lid to make sure it is sealing all around the reservoir. With the lid off, pour some DOT 4 fluid into the reservoir, and slowly squeeze the clutch to get some air out of the clutch. When you see only fluid moving back and forth, release the clutch, fill the reservoir to the upper line or a little below the top. Have a rag handy to wipe any overflow, as dot 4 removes paint. Tighten up top of master cylinder, and work clutch until you can feel the back pressure.

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1989 Honda gold wing 1500 // I am two days into my vacation and am loosing clutch lever resistance and there is fluid under the triple tree. Thane anyone don

Sounds to me like you have a leak in your hydraulic clutch system. Your clutch lever will start to feel odd as (1) fluid leaks out, reducing pressure; and (2) less pressure reaches critical areas because pressure over a certain level is squirting fluid out of the system.

Leaks like these are often caused by one of two things: (1) a hydraulic line that has sprung a leak; or (2) a leaking / cracked fluid reservoir on your clutch slave cylinder. I am discounting the possibility that the slave cylinder itself is going bad, as that wouldn't create fluid leaks external to the system.

To troubleshoot your system, top off the fluid reservoir and then squeeze the clutch lever repeatedly while looking closely to see where fluid may be leaking out. MAKE SURE YOU'RE WEARING GLASSES OR PROTECTIVE GOGGLES WHEN YOU DO THIS!! A pinhole leak in a hydraulic line can shoot out a thin but forceful jet of fluid, and that's really nasty stuff to get into your eyes (it's bad enough on your skin or on the painted surfaces of your bike). The leak won't dribble all the time, only when you're applying pressure, which is why you'll need to keep working the clutch lever while you're looking for leaks. The location of the leak will tell you a lot.

Though I can't see your bike, I'm leaning towards the idea that a hose or, more specifically, the metal end of the hose, is leaking fluid under pressure. If this is the case, you should be able to obtain a replacement hose/line from a Honda dealer and swap it out without too much of a bother. If you're in the middle of nowhere and can't get to a Honda dealer, it's also possible that a hose shop could fabricate a custom line for you if you're able to show them your old hose.

On the other hand, if you have a cracked reservoir, you most likely will have to replace the entire clutch actuating assembly (slave cylinder? clutch cylinder?). That part should be relatively exposed--it may be mounted to the handlebars out in plain view; you won't have to mess with the actual clutch inside the transmission. Because of the location where fuel is puddling, though, I think this is less likely than a hose / hose connection problem.

Good luck, and I hope this doesn't spoil your vacation!

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BMW updated the input shaft seals a while ago, so once you get the new seals CORRECTLY installed your problem should go away.

BTW, was the clutch done at 15,000 by an authorized dealer?? If so, there should be some warranty as BMW gives a two year warranty on repairs done by authorized dealers. If the clutch disc is worn out due to abuse, then that is a different story. Might be wise to investigate if you are entitled to some warranty coverage due to the leaking seals.

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When fluid flows airbubble free, tighten the bleeder. Feel the cluthhandle, should feel 'nice' now.

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