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Re: Caponord starter relay problems
With no luck I hit the starter again and it sounded like the starter was spinning freell with no motor drag. After thatvsound I stopped. I let it sit for a minute and then hit the start button and nothing! All I could hear was a loud click from the right rear side. I called my dealer since it has another year warranty and he said it sounded like the starter relay. He has had several problems with the relays and actually stocks about 8 of them. After he addresses the starting issue, he is going to look into why it started and died. But first things first.
According to my dealer, these relays have had several issues. Is this common or is it, like coil failure, a passing phase?
It broke my heart to trailer it back to the dealer especially when my neighbors piece of shit sportster 883 was pulling away.
,I've heard about a few relay problems...But not many at all. What you are describing sounds more like a problem with the starter motor, or a worn gear leading from the starter to the sprag clutch (there appears to be 2). Or the sprag clutch itself. But that would be the first time I have ever heard of any problems there.
Hopefully, its just the relay....We all know the Capo has her little electrical gremlins
Good luck, and please keep us posted.
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There are a couple of things that could be happening here, assuming you've checked the fuse. Firstly your battery might be almost out of charge, so there is enough power to throw the relay but not turn the starter. Secondly your starter motor could be jammed. To test this, first fully charge your battery or use a jump pack, if that doesn't work, then attach your start motor directly to a battery by putting the positive terminal on the bolt on the motor and the negative on the starter motor body. If still nothing happens then remove your starter motor and try the same again. If it fails to turn, you'll need to replace it. If it turns then there is a fault in the wiring between the relay and the motor.
This happened to me. Turned out to be a broken wire from the alternator. I suspected the alternator at first but it wasn't that. Traced the 2 wires from the alternator to a connection plug and found a broken wire. Repaired and now all fine.
You can kick start it but your electric starter won't kick it in ?
Have you check your main fuse to the starter, starter relay and all realted wirings?
You have fried the starter motor my friend when you keep trying to turn it over until the motor stops.
Well, from what you've described, you started motor have gone to brink, better get a new starter.
There are two safety switches that you may need to test. 1) Neutral safety switch- this switch is what tells the bike that it's in neutral and allows the starter to engage. 2) Kickstand safety switch- this switch will not allow the bike to run in gear if the kickstand is down. My initial guess is the neutral safety switch. If the neutral safety switch is bad, then you will not be able to start the bike with the kickstand down because the bike thinks that it's in gear (even if in neutral). This also may explain why the initial intermitent problem of not starting when warm since the metal contacts will expand and possibly not make contact when warmed up. Are you trying to start the bike with the kickstand up or down? If it were the kickstand safety switch, the bike would probably start okay and then die when you put it in gear.
I would start by checking your starter switch, ignition, the starter relay and then the kickstand saftey switch. There is a few things that happen when you start the bike. One, you depress the starter switch, the headlight shuts off, the starter relay closes and the bike starts. I'm not sure how or what creates this but I bet there is a relay somewhere along the line that cuts power to your headlight when you start the bike and its faulty and is causing both of the problems. It may stuck somewhere in the middle instead of open or closed. I would also suggest jumping your starter relay to see if it starts. If it doesnt, then it must in your ignition switch. Find your starter relay, there should be one red wire leading to it, another leading away. Very important... make sure your bike is in neutral.. the starter will fire not matter what. Take flat headed screw driver and connect the two post. It should fire right up. If it does, the lights should come on. It may be just enough to get that stuck relay unstuck.
well what you did there was start it but the fans still need the ignition switch to turn on all the electronics. for the starting problem, check the wiring from the battery to the relay. or even the actual ignition switch in the bars. see if the button is bad, that has been a small problem if the internal workings in the button get coroded or get miss aligned.
the (example refuelling) the engine starts just don’t turn the engine (like a stall engine).
It is becoming a frequent problem I discovered than if I put the moto in a high gear and push the moto by hand the pistons move a little bit and then the electrical start engine starts OK.
What is wrong with the engine.........
I know that some bikes do that (engine adjusts ??....)
,Nomally the starter has some trouble turning the crankshaft if one of the pistons is in TDP. You better check the state of your battery, because it could be weak.... another thing to watch out is the starter relay - could be a signal that this part it's going for a looong vacation ,,,