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Honda xr125 problems engaging 1st gear

Initially fine but once riding does not want to re engage 1st at junctions etc. gear change lever does seem very loose could this be a cause

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SOURCE: Shift lever will not return after shifting gears.

It most likely is the shift return spring.

Posted on May 07, 2009

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SOURCE: 2007 Honda CRF 230-Not shifting out of 1st gear

I have a feeling you broke a yoke, That bike is fairly new, and I don't think the tranny is trashed yet, probably just something in there slipped off. I don't know how hard it is to get to the gearbox, but you have to go in there and find out. I couldn't find any complaints about it in the forums, supposed to be a nice bike. Hope this helps.

Posted on Jun 23, 2010

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Sounds like a bent shift fork or two. Replacing the bad shift forks is major surgery and is NOT recommended for the inexperienced mechanic. Several special tools are needed. The top end and gearbox get totally torn down just to get to the shift forks. This is a very expensive repair, guessing $2100 or so at the dealers. Bummer. Contact a few dealers to cofirm my view of the problem and the probable repair cost. The shift forks move left and right as the shift drum is rotated when you lift or push down on the shift pedal.
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Posted on Jul 18, 2010

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SOURCE: rattle and slippage when engaging

Clutch plates may be worn. You would have to pull the side cover to inspect them. Honda clutch's always rattle at an idle when in neutral. If you just pull in the clutch lever the rattle will go away. Let the lever out and it will rattle again. As for the slippage, if your clutch cable is binding at all it will keep the clutch from fully engaging when you release the handle. This will cause the clutch to slip for a second or two until the cable fully releases from the bind. Any resistance in the cable and you should replace it.

Posted on Aug 04, 2010

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This is caused by the gear pack engagement "Dogs" inside the transmission being worn, you will need to replace them, this entails removing the engine from the motorcycle and then the cylinder barrels and then splitting the transmission cases, the job requires many special tools and factory training and manuals to complete the repair, unless you really know this work you can cause allot of damage. Bottom line? it is very expensive to fix and is a common issue with all Honda motorcycle transmissions on there high powered models. There is only one suggestion that I can make and that is to lower the idle down to the low end of the idle speed spec, which is about 850-1000 RPMs, that lessens the engagement bang. This information comes from a friend who was a motorcycle mechanic for years

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Go to the site below where you can see a parts diagram for your specific bike. You will select the actual brand, year, model, etc., once you go to the site. Part numbers and prices are also shown. You can order parts from this site. In the event no price is shown on a particular part, the part is not in stock. http://www.babbittsonline.com/pages/parts/viewbybrandand/parts.aspx

Go to this site and you can download a free PDF service manual.
http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp Most of the manuals are in English but some are not. There is no way to be sure without doing the download. You can always delete it if in a foreign language.


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