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My 1978 fx Harley 4 speed transmission when down shifting from 4th the shifter went down to the foot peg and is stuck in 4th, why?

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The only way to tell whats wrong is to remove the trans top or ratchet lid and look whats going on. Chanses are it's something in the shift mechanism.

Posted on Apr 16, 2009

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Sounds more like a shifter pawl problem. I'm not familiar with the RevTech tranny but it should be very similar to the original H-D tranny. The shifter pawl has to be adjusted so that it's got equal travel in both directions. If you're trying to adjust it. Put the tranny in neutral. Now lift the shifter lever until you feel the pawl engage the pin in the shifter drum. Then go back to the middle of the movement range and depress the shift lever until you feel the pawl contact the other pin. The lever should move about the same distance in each direction. If not, the shifter pawl needs to be adjusted. On some bikes, it take some special tools to be able to get to the adjuster. The adjuster is on the left side just in front of the lever that connects to the shifter pawl shaft sticking out of the transmission.

Posted on May 30, 2010

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Posted on May 31, 2009

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Happens all the time, you shifter pawl return spring is broken. If you will put the transmission in neutral and lift or push down on the shift lever, you'll notice that the lever doesn't want to return to the "center position" on it's own. This is because the spring that brings the shifter back to the "center position" after a gear shift is broken. It is also not advisable to ride the bike until this is repaired. The broken end of the spring has been known to get caught up in the gears and actually bust the transmission cases in addition to damaging those gears.

This is not a simple repair job in the fact that all the "guts" have to come out of the transmission. The shifter pawl shaft will not come out of the transmission case with the gears on their shafts left inside the case.

If you want more detail, drop me a line at wd4ity@bellsouth.net

Posted on Oct 26, 2009

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sounds like it's overhaul time for your four speed. It may be something to do with the shifting mechanism but since you didn't mention anything about problems in the other gears, it would be my guess that the spacer shims on the countershaft have worn and you have too much endplay in the countershaft. Just a guess of course. You really can't tell about those until you go into them.

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Steve

Posted on Oct 24, 2010

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