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Driver side Power Window

Hi. The driver side power window is not going up or down. When the switch is activated it does not cause the interior lights to dim (i.e. does not appear to be drawing power). I do here a clicking type noise that sounds like it is coming from the switch. I do not here anything coming from the motor and did not here any strange noises before it stopped working. My questions are: 1) does this sound like a switch issue to you? 2)how do I test to see if the switch is the problem if it is likely 3) Do I need to remove the entire door panel to replace the switch?
Thanks  for all your Help. Mike

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  • Michael Bertram Sep 07, 2008

    Thanks Automaster.


    This worked perfectly. I removed the door panel and and tapped on the motor while activating the switch and the motor kicked in moving the window down.


    I really appreciate your help.
    Mike

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It sounds like a motor problem and the motor is the most likely, usualy it is just stuck, if you can open the doorpanel and tap on the motor while driving the switch should solve the problem. and the switch should be able to pry out without demoumting the panel.

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