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2006 Element - Fuel Cannister - water

After the flood engine light is on (orange) and the dealer says there is water in the fuel cannister, they want $763 to replace it. Can it simply be removed and dried out??? any ideas are welcome. Steve
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  • mrextreme67 Dec 14, 2008

    steve i have a few questions for you...does your element loose power ...kinda jerks down the road and you have to kill it and turn the key back and restart it..then it will drive fine for awhile and do it all over again

    also if you dont fill it with gas it will stop this problem...is that what your does..please let me know.

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Yes you can remove and dry out the canister. Now it may take a few days to fully dry out so if you have the time to invest it can be done or you can purchase a new canister and put it in yourself. You can go to your nearest parts store and pick up a copy of the Haynes or Chilton's Manuel for you year and model and it will walk you trough on how to remove and/or install canister.

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