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94 Automatic Geo Metro 3 Cyl. Map Sensor - EGR Valve

My mechanic tells me the diagnostic computer gave him codes for the EGR Valve and the Map sensor, which triggered the check engine light. He tells me both will need to be replaced before the light will go off.

Trying to budget as I am a college student and know nothing about cars. Which one should I budget to repair 1st? He also mentioned the EGR silinoid (spelling?) may be the 'real' problem with the EGR valve.

Note- I take really good care of my car, tune ups, engine steamed, oils changes etc.

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Unfortunately, both of these items are equally important and repairs can't normally be avoided by taking care of your car.

Your MAP (Mass Air Pressure) Sensor measures intake manifold vacuum pressure to help control the air and fuel mixture and timing. It contains a pressure-sensitive element that connects to an electronic circuit, generating a signal that changes with pressure changes in the manifold.

Your EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) valve recirculates exhaust gases through the intake manifold to be burned again, cooling peak combustion temperature. Dilutes the air and fuel mixture to keep the nitrogen oxide emissions within breathable limits. And yes, it could very well be that the EGR solenoid that is causing the issue.

Both units effect your vehicle's fuel/air mixture. This is important because your vehicle running lean/rich can cause "snowball" problems. For example, a faulty EGR can cause the vehicle to run rich/lean. If not repaired, in time, the exhaust caused by the wrong rich/lean fuel mixture can damage the O2 sensors and/or catalytic converter.

If I had to pick, I'd start with your MAP Sensor. One guess I would have is that your MAP Sensor failed and made your vehicle start burning the wrong fuel/air mixture. Assuming I'm right, this could have damaged the EGR Valve. So, I see no reason to replace the EGR Valve alone, just so it too can be damaged by the poor fuel/air mixture caused by the still-faulty MAP Sensor. If your lucky, you may see the faulty EGR code disappear once your MAP Sensor is replaced.

Hope this helps and good luck!

Posted on Jan 12, 2009

  • joycelyn reid Jan 28, 2013

    well thanks again my car is only like this first thing in morning lumpy and smokey ,i have had a code which was egr valve .also cleaned manifold flaps and mapsensor,no code now but still have the problem

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