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Radio / rear window operation

Body shop removed & installed rear window for roof repair. When reinstalled, radio did not pick up signal when rear window defroster is on. Body shop again removed and installed rear window, reversing leads (2 leads on right side, one lead on left side)....result--radio works fine but rear defroster does not work now.

What is happening?

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Did your shop figure out this problem?????? We are having the same problem

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Hi there, I am not familiar with the Kia, however here's the deal. The Ariel for the radio only would need a single connection as its like providing a wire to receive the radio waves through. So one connection for the Radio ariel is good.

The rear window though is basically a circuit of resistive wire in the rear window that gets hot as the electric current flows through it. To have current flow through it it has to have a way for the current to get into the circuit (out of the battery or alternator and into the window) and way to return back to the alternator or battery - so for the rear window there needs to be 2 contacts.

Its possible that they have a connection at the edge of the window at the top or the bottom, but you need a complete circuit for the rear window demister to work. So check all around to see if there are any other connections that are around the window that are not connected where the body shop guys may have trapped the wire under the trim ? Also the only other thing that prevents the rear demister from working may be the fuse - could check that, and if the wires across the window are broken some how buy some one scraping something across the glass and breaking the circuit that way.

If you check the fuse and there are no obvious breaks in the wires on the rear window i would call the Kia Service center and talk to one of the guys there and ask if they can give any advice on where the connections are and if they think you shoudl take it back to the body shop again - iut certainly sounds like they have not connected it up right at the body shop so or they have damaged the window so I would take it back.

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Posted on Aug 18, 2008

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