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Need to unlock or lock manually, the fabric bow on a 1994 e320 mbz

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  • tnocel May 27, 2011

    The fabric bow is the mercedes term for the soft top and its positioning when malfunction occurs, which is what has happened in my case. I need to be able to manually lock the fabric bow, which is the last thing that occurs when putting the convertible top up. My mechanic thinks that if we could lock it or unlock it(if we knew where or how to do this) The car would then have completed the cycle, or succession of steps to raise or lower the soft top, and then might work again. At this time, were stumped. After connecting to the diagnostic reader/computer, the car reads that nothings wrong. what can we do to rectify this situation?

  • tnocel May 27, 2011

    Did you not read my statement made about the car already being hooked up to the diagnostic computers and reading no problems found I just SPECIFICALLY need to know ...How to lock or unlock fabric bow so the car can complete the cycle of opening or closing the soft top. This is a very specific question...you either have an answer or you dont. thank you

  • tnocel May 27, 2011

    Ok, were going round in circles! Let me state my question once more...I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO SPECIFICALLY UNLOCK OR LOCK THE FABRIC BOW OF A 1994 E 32O Cabriolet so that the cycle of lowering the top can continue as a full process VERY CONCISE no other questions JUST THAT! thank you

  • tnocel May 28, 2011

    That is a very useful link but the chassis of a 1994 E320 is a 124 or 126, can I have the link for that chassis or do I just change the first number in that link?And I dont want to remove the cylinders, I just want to lock the fabric bow. HELP, Im running out of patience someone wants to purchase the car and I cant sell until this issue is resolved! But I thank you, youve been most helpful so far!
    Terry

  • tnocel May 28, 2011

    Cool, so is it possible then to just lock or unlock the fabric bow because my mechanic seems to think thats all it needs to continue the cycle so that it will work again. The only other thing that happened prior to this malfunction of the soft top was My car needed a jump cuz I left on the lights for a long time, and when we hooked up the cables the car sparked and the cables caught on fire but he then re hooked them up and the car started and it was fine. Could something have burned out? Everyone says no, any thoughts? Weve checked everything and the computer shows fabric bow not latched and roll bar button is flashing...??

  • tnocel May 30, 2011

    If youve done this before might you give me to the point instructions how JUST to lock fabric bow everything seems to skirt around these issues and I think my mechanic can do this if explained. Hes vewry good but first time for anything other than engine. Thanks

  • tnocel Jun 03, 2011

    Well I printed all the stuff out and took it to give to my mechanic and he said it wouldnt help...he wants to get another E320 and hook up to its controller module, or whatever its called and see if the car will work then...for some reason I dont agree...I noticed some oll leakage on the corner of the dashboard earlier on but my friend took the car apart and he said it all looked fine. I dont get it but its not doing anything now , before it would at least roll the windows down...sheesh Help. What should I do now I dont have $1000 or more for that part if the car needs one. Is there a rebuilt one I could get? How did u get yours to start working again?

  • tnocel Jun 03, 2011

    I thought i was supposed to be able to solve my situation first? You did not reply to my question. Ok heres the deal using that diagram can you tell me which page has the correct duiiagram to use to MANUALLY UNLOCK the FABRIC BOW because I want my friend, who is not a mechanic help me to fix this because I see big dollar signs heading my way and I cant afford it. Plus I can sell the car if this will work. So please respond and then I will accept your answer. Sincerely, Terry PS by the way, how much did the car u were referring to cost to repair?

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Follow this
http://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/R129%20Rear%20Locking%20Cylinder%20Removal.pdf

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  • Azrael SRL May 28, 2011

    The mechanism is identical on your W124, installed just a little differently. The only time i worked on your model i read and followed this http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-c...

  • Azrael SRL May 28, 2011

    It may be that the sensor/microswitch for the hood latch is triggered when in reality the latch mechanism is not activated. Or the relay that controls the locking cylinder is dead, it was fried by the power surge. Your mechanic should check the relay first.

  • Azrael SRL May 30, 2011

    This is an expensive and rare car, i've only worked on one of them. The rear locking cylinder operation and its removal is explained in the pdf above, this is what i used when the car came to me with blocked roof.

  • Azrael SRL Jun 03, 2011

    I had it rebuilt by the company that supplied the diagram . If the repair guy can't use that diagram then it's not a good one, get another. And please accept my answer.

  • Azrael SRL Jun 04, 2011

    3500 euro - 2000 euro for the remanufactured cylinders, 1500 for my labor - i own my repair shop. Sorry, i thought that the car was in a repair shop and the ones from there lack the knowledge of your particular car. This is not a job for an amateur , to be done in the backyard by someone who has no idea how the system works. Take the car to a specialist.

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The hydraulic cylinders that move the top need to be checked. The have likely lost their oil or seized. This is a common problem. It becomes very expensive even to diagnose completely. There are some DIY instructions on the various Mercedes forums but it is not for the faint of heart. A range of interior panel removals, error code checks from various electrical sockets in the vehicle and a working knowledge of hydraulics is needed. The cylinders will have to be sent for a rebuild and no way to know which ones are good or bad. Your vehicle has 8 hydraulic devices to get the to down and in place. Sorry I don't have better news but it is a big job. Finding professional help that is not a dealer is the best option. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of shops that know how to do this. They will also want to sell you new cylinders instead of getting the originals rebuilt.

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Hello
I am not clear on what you information you need here. Can you please provide detailed information as to what it is you have going on here and what part of the car this relates to. Once I have the more detailed information I can try and help. Thanks in advance.

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    yadayada May 27, 2011

    The soft top is controlled by computer module, you need to have that tested by the MB dealer. The testing and diagnosis of the tops operation is not something a lay person can do.

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    yadayada May 31, 2011

    Did you get this taken care of?

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