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The van leans when it turns the camber or toe is improper is it a sign of chassis wear or can it be corrected with a front end alignment

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Might have some front end bushings worn like control arm bushings if so will need to be replaced and aligned

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What causes my new sprinter van motorhome to get so out of alignment (toe in) after only 3000 miles?

There is more rubbish talked about wheel alignment than engine oils.

In the old days a vehicle needed a pre-delivery inspection and sometimes the dealer could spend literally days putting right stuff the factory had left half done. Checking and adjusting wheel alignment was one of those things.

Since computers and robots have been building vehicles any pre-delivery inspection is usually a formality with few (and mostly no) faults and maladjustments to correct. The wheel alignment is adjusted dynamically as part of the production process.

The amount of toe-in a vehicle needs is completely dependent on the other suspension and steering angles, which in the straight ahead position is principally the camber angle.

Vehicles (suspension and steering in this case) are produced to a tolerance. The various dimensions should fall into an acceptable range of values rather than being exact. The engineering and assembly required to make every vehicle to exact blueprint dimensions would be too expensive and impractical but if it were possible the calculated dimension for toe-in would actually mean something.

In the real world the dimension listed in the data book for toe-in will be a base figure with a tolerance. The more precise a chassis is produced the smaller will be the tolerance. Today the tolerance is likely to be 0.5 to about 1.5mm. There was a time when Ford used a tolerance of 6mm.

The point is, the ideal toe setting will vary slightly and be individual to a specific vehicle but if the chassis dimensions are all within tolerance then so will the toe setting be in tolerance and so when the manufacturer adjusts the toe-in dynamically the alignment will be the best compromise setting it is possible to make.
It must be a compromise setting because of the tolerance which will almost certainly mean the camber angle one side will be slightly different to the camber angle the other side meaning each side will require a different amount of toe which would be impossible to achieve with one steering gear operating both wheels and so the best compromise setting is the average between the two requirements.

Sometimes in the real world one sort of slips through due to all sorts of possible circumstances. Maybe the toe wasn't adjusted or perhaps the camber angle is wildly different each side and no compromise setting will ever work for it until that has been rectified.
Sometimes in the aftermarket the book compromise figure has to be ignored and the best compromise setting found by trial and error depending on the wear pattern on the tyres. This can be quite a long job and expensive on tyres due to the fact once a tyre has developed an uneven wear pattern it will remain that way until the end of it's life.

I strongly suggest you have a 4-wheel complete alignment check carried out to ensure your vehicle is straight and to reassure yourself the steering and suspension angles are within tolerance. Once this is done you can have more confidence the recommended toe-in values can be used in the future.

May 05, 2016 | Cars & Trucks

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2004 GMC ENVOY whenever making a turn in drive or reverse tires drag on pavement

have the wheel alignment checked for correct camber and toe in- toe out adjustment. Check condition of wheel bearings and adjustment. .Check the front end suspension for wear

Apr 30, 2014 | Cars & Trucks

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The tires are wear out on the inside and dishing on the outside, is this a sign of wore out struts causing the front to be out of line. What is the fix needed replacw struts in front and new tires

Wearing on the inside can be caused by an excessive camber angle or excessive toe out, or both. Either of these can be caused by worn or damaged suspension parts. Camber affects Caster, and Camber and Caster affect Toe. Toe affects the Thrust Angle. (These are the major suspension angles involved in wheel alignment) The "dishing" or "cupping" is caused by what is sometimes called "wheel-hop" this can be caused by worn-out struts or shocks and can also be caused by tires that are seriously out of balance.

The recommended "Fix" would be to inspect the ENTIRE suspension system to check for loose and/or worn and/or damaged parts. Replace any of these parts as necessary. Then replace and balance the tires and head straight over to the alignment shop to have all of your suspension angles set to manufacturer's specifications. (Most tire stores also have an alignment machine)

Apr 10, 2011 | Chevrolet Blazer Cars & Trucks

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Front tires wearing on inside very quickly on 1998 Mazda B2500

This may be due to the alignment being out of specification or possibly loose front end parts throwing your alignment out.

Jan 10, 2011 | 2004 Chevrolet Impala

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I keep having to replace wheels on my car.... the wheels are wearing unevenly i took it to a guy and he says the that there is a bar under there that keeps the wheels strait up and that bar is bent so my...

was your car in a wreck since you have own it?
that would be the only way anyone could bend steering or suspension parts.if your tires are leaning out on top,
it would be a part called"lower control arm assembly",
if you stand in front of your car with the steering wheel straight,and your tires are pointing in on each side,or pointed out instead of straight,that would be a "tie rod "
there is an inner tie rod and an outer tie rod end.
you need to take your car to a shop that does alignments,and have them tell you exactly what is wrong,you can even get lower control arm assemblies
from a salvage yard.but do yourself a favor and don't take your car to a MONROE or MIDAS type shop,they are only there to sell and make commissions! Find a normal shop that the owner is the mechanic.

Nov 26, 2009 | 1998 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

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Tires wearing inside on 2008 Impala LT

this is a wheel camber (in and out tilt of wheel and tire) problem, u may have to have a Camber adjustment kit put in, most new cars have no adjustment provided for this. the bottom line here is you need to see a really good front end shop to get this taken care of, also the tires will continue to wear this way even if problem is corrected, so may want to replace them or rotate them.

Jun 05, 2009 | 2008 Chevrolet Impala

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Front End alignment

Caster +2.5 degrees to +3.5degrees Camber -.5 degree to +.5 degree but Myself for best tire wear the Camber should be set at-.2 degree to +.2 degree. as for the toe it should be set at 0 straight ahead to an 1/8 an inch toed in. I myself preferr 1/16th of an inch toed in.

Dec 06, 2008 | 2001 Dodge Stratus

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Car shakes at highspeed, wears inside of tires

Sounds like its either your "camber angle" or your tires aren't balanced correctly

Nov 24, 2008 | 1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera

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Toe-in drivers side

You adjust toe with the tie rod ends they are threaded, the kind of method you describe will most likely make the problem worse, also outside wear is caused by the tilt of the wheel, that is called camber, on most cars the camber is fixed, the front end tech must do special mods to get this to be adjustable, some times drill out rivets, other time a kit must be installed.

Oct 22, 2008 | 1998 Oldsmobile Bravada

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Shimmy in front end at speeds of 50-60mph.

the tires,check if theyre worn out,make sure you check the inside edgea,if they're wearing unevenly,replace them and get an alignment from someone you trust,make sure the caster/camber and toe are in spec.-toe and camber are tire wearing angles-camber the most-if the inside or outside edges are worn more,or when you drive and let go of the steering wheel,it tilts to one side,camber problem,make sure tires are inflated correctly,about 32-36 psi,check ur gas flap for bmw recommended pressures-u should be safe with what i gave you-so yeah,check tire pressures and wear-if tires feathered,too much toe in or out-this should take care of your problem,good luck

Aug 12, 2008 | BMW 525 Cars & Trucks

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