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The sensors under the hood had a ground problem i have tapped into the ground on sensor and ran a new ground back to battery negative [-] to stop that.
get a chilton's manual from orielly auto and it should give a wiring diagram and tell you the color of each wire from sensor one wire from each sensor goes to a common tie point which is the ground circuit hook into that wire from sensor and run a new wire to battery negative.

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