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The warning chime on my 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee continues chiming when the door is closed and the key is in the first position from off. I tow this unit behind a motor home and need to leave the key in this position to unlock the steering wheel. When in the run position the chime is silent. Also the windows will not run from the driver side and the auto lock will not lock the doors at 15 miles an hour. The lock switch on the drivers side will only lock the door on the driver side. Since we will be leaving in a couple of days I would like to be able to silence the chime until we reach our destination where I can take the unit into a shop.

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  • Gerald Thomas May 18, 2011

    How much power does the chimes draw? I will be traveling about 5 hours daily but will turn the key off at my daily destinations. I may also disconnect and use the Jeep to find a restaurant.

  • Gerald Thomas May 18, 2011

    Found it was not a sensor. It was a broken wire in the wiring harness going through the door. I patched the wire until I can get a new harness.

  • Gerald Thomas May 18, 2011

    I looked at them all. The broken one was a clean break. Just like a pair of diagonals had cut it.

  • Gerald Thomas May 18, 2011

    The only explanation that I can give is that we are in a pretty hot climate (Arizona) and the wires are starting to get a bit brittle and with the flexing will tend to break. We are going to Idaho for about three months and while there I plan on replacing the harness.

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The chime is active because the sensor on one of the doors keeps reporting it as open - this is a defect in the sensor, located inside the actual lock. You cannot disable the chime, it's an integral part of the Body Control Module. To fix that the door will have to be dismantled and the sensor replaced, a job for a repair shop.
Until you reach one you can disconnect the battery and lock the doors manually.

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  • Azrael SRL May 18, 2011

    If one wire was damaged others surely were - inspect all of them very carefully, if a power one shorts it may fry the BCM and kill it, stopping the car.

  • Azrael SRL May 18, 2011

    That is odd, there is nothing in there that would cause that - the wires in that harness are far away from everything that could pinch or rip them. And, if by a miracle, they would get caught, there would be more damage on the wire: squashed insulation, ripped copper strands.

  • Azrael SRL May 18, 2011

    There must be a pretty crappy copper for that to happen. But who knows. But if it's that crappy then while replacing that one, make sure to inspect every other wire. And please accept my answer.

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Provisionally, could check this chimes is in a small box under the dash (driver side), and just unplug it. Keep in mind that sometimes these chimes are connected to the key switch and may not allow you to start the car.

Other, I would start with the fuse box. There should be a fuse for the airbag system. Try pulling the fuse and see if that shuts it off. If there is no airbag system fuse, or pulling it doens't shut off the buzzer, try some of the other fuses. Keep in mind this is only a temporary way to stop the noise.

There is no other way to disable this chime since it is an integral part of your Body Control Module which also controls a lot of things in your car. I say just leave it with the dealer since this is a warranty repair.

Hope this helps.

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