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Overheating, seems like radiator is full, but not sure.

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The engine is kept cool by a liquid circulating through the engine to a radiator. In the radiator, the liquid is cooled by air passing through the radiator tubes. The coolant is circulated by a rotating water pump driven by the engine crankshaft. The complete engine cooling system consists of a radiator, recovery system, cooling fan, thermostat, water pump and serpentine belt.

Check the coolant level in the recovery bottle or surge tank, usually mounted on the inner fender. With the engine cold, the coolant level should be at the FULL COLD or between the FULL HOT and ADD level. With the engine at normal operating temperature, the coolant level should be at the FULL HOT or HOT mark. Only add coolant to the recovery bottle or surge tank as necessary to bring the system up to a proper level. On any vehicle that is not equipped with a coolant recovery bottle or surge tank, the level must be checked by removing the radiator cap. This should only be done when the cooling system has had time to sufficiently cool after the engine has been run. The coolant level should be within 2 in. (51mm) of the base of the radiator filler neck. If necessary, coolant can then be added directly to the radiator.

While you are checking the coolant level, check the radiator cap for a worn or cracked gasket. If the cap doesn't seal properly, fluid will be lost and the engine will overheat.

Worn caps should be replaced with a new one.

Periodically clean any debris; leaves, paper, insects, etc. from the radiator fins. Pick the large pieces off by hand. The smaller pieces can be washed away with water pressure from a hose.

Carefully straighten any bent radiator fins with a pair of needle nose pliers. Be careful, the fins are very soft. Don't wiggle the fins back and forth too much. Straighten them once and try not move them again. It is recommended that the radiator be cleaned and flushed of sludge and any rust build-up once a year. If this has not been administered within the stated time, this may be why your vehicle is overheating at this time. Have the Radiator flushed asap if this is the case.

Now, if the coolant level is proper and, the cap is in fair or good condition, i would advise to move in the direction of the cooling fans and sensors as well. These fans are vital to the cooling process as well. The cooling fans must cycle in intervals to keep the coolant cool during stop and go driving or, long idle. They are also very important during the operational period of the AC during travel as well. i recommend inspecting the cooling fans while the engine is running. they should cycle during the running period. if this is not the case, you will need to test the operational value of these devices. The test procedure follows below


TESTING


1. If the fan doesn't operate, disconnect the fan and apply voltage across the fan terminals. If the fan still doesn't run, it needs a new motor.

2. If the fan runs, with the jumpers but not when connected, the fan relay is the most likely problem.

3. If fan operates but a high current draw is suspected continue with the following ammeter TESTING.

4. Disconnect the electrical connector from the cooling fan.

5. Using an ammeter and jumper wires, connect the fan motor in series with the battery and ammeter. With the fan running, check the ammeter reading, it should be 3.4-5.0 amps; if not, replace the motor.

6. Reconnect the fan's electrical connector. Start the engine, allow it to reach temperatures above 194°F and confirm that the fan runs. If the fan doesn't run, replace the temperature switch.



Ok, Now we will move on to the next possible issue. The water pump. ok, due to the fact that your pump is driven by the drive belt, you will need to start the engine and listen for bad bearing, using a mechanic's Stethoscope or rubber tubing.

* Place the stethoscope or hose on the bearing or pump shaft.
* If a louder than normal noise is heard, the bearing is defective.

Replace the pump in this case.

You will also notice leakage around the pump housing if the seal has failed as well. this will strain the impeller and, ruin the pump.

Now. the last area of concern will be the thermostat. this is the most common issue that will inflict overheating in many vehicles. The thermostat is used to control the flow of engine coolant. When the engine is cold, the thermostat is closed to prevent coolant from circulating through the engine. As the engine begins to warm up, the thermostat opens to allow the coolant to flow through the radiator and cool the engine to its normal operating temperature. Fuel economy and engine durability is increased when operated at normal operating temperature.


There are several ways to test the opening temperature of a thermostat.

One method does not require that the thermostat be removed from the engine.

* Remove the radiator pressure cap from a cool radiator and insert a thermometer into the coolant.
* Start the engine and let it warm up. Watch the thermometer and the surface of the coolant.
* When the coolant begins to flow, this indicates the thermostat has started to open.
* The reading on the thermometer indicates the opening temperature of the thermostat.
* If the engine is cold and coolant circulates, this indicates the thermostat is stuck open and must be replaced.

The other way to test a thermostat is to remove it.

* Suspend the thermostat completely submerged in a small container of water so it does not touch the bottom.
* Place a thermometer in the water so it does not touch the container and only measures water temperature.
* Heat the water.
* When the thermostat valve barely begins to open, read the thermometer. This is the opening temperature of this particular thermostat.
* If the valve stays open after the thermostat is removed from the water, the thermostat is defective and must be replaced.
* Several types of commercial testers are available. When using such a tester, be sure to follow the manufacturer's instructions.
* Markings on the thermostat normally indicate which end should face toward the radiator. Regardless of the markings, the sensored end must always be installed toward the engine.
* When replacing the thermostat, also replace the gasket that seals the thermostat in place and is positioned between the water outlet casting and the engine block.

* Generally, these gaskets are made of a composition fiber material and are die-cut to match the thermostat opening and mounting bolt configuration of the water outlet.
* Thermostat gaskets generally come with or without an adhesive backing. The adhesive backing of gaskets holds the thermostat securely centered in the mounting flange, leaving both hands of the technician free to align and bolt the thermostat securely in place.

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SOURCE: No heat, Full radiator, Overheating, Stalled out

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 15, 2010

SOURCE: need manual for,or, info on

If the thermostat is good and the radiator is full the only thing left is the water pump. I recommend the Haynes repair manual for addressing the replacement of the water pump.

Steve

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  • Posted on Oct 07, 2011

SOURCE: slight overheating after driving 15 miles. there

You could go back to the place that did the radiator / hose work to have them check it out. You may pay more for the solution - but it will be complete. You could check (or replace) the thermostat on your own, or continue searching for a possible fault. This can get even more expensive if you start replacing parts.

To check the thermostat - remove it from the vehicle when cold. Be careful to prevent spilling / loss of coolant when removing from car. The thermostat should be closed. Place in a small pot and fill with water to completely cover the thermostat. Heat the pot on stove set to "high". The thermostat should open depending on the temperature value (185 degrees , etc.), but all thermostats should open before the water comes to a boil (212 degrees). If it opens fully, the thermostat is OK. You could reinstall it - or since it is already apart, install a brand new thermostat instead. If it does not open, it should be replaced with a new one.

Check the fan. With the engine running, the fan should be spinning if a mechanical type. If electrical, the fan will turn on and off as determined by a separate electrical thermostat for the fan. When the engine approaches operating temperature, the fan will be switched on. When cooled sufficiently, it will switch off. If the mechanical fan is equipped with a clutch - the fan should be able to be rotated with the engine off. It should offer some resistance - but should turn never the less. The part of the fan in contact with the drive belt shouldn't move if there is a clutch. Under no circumstances should a mechanical fan spin freely, nor should it wobble. Electric fans should spin freely however.

An important note about fans: After driving the car and shutting the engine off, it is not unusual for the electric fan to start up - even without a key in the ignition. Never attempt to touch a car's electric fan blades unless the engine is COLD. Never reach into the fan area or protective shroud of car's mechanical fan when the engine is running.

Another thing that could be causing a problem is the water pump. If it is failing, the coolant will not effectively circulate between the radiator and engine block. This will cause the engine to overheat.

An obstruction in the cooling system will have a similar result. Some "leak stopping additives" can reduce coolant flow in the system to cause similar overheating issues.

Good luck!

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