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Falls on it's face when throttled ,but runs good when rpm's are up.rough idle checked forvacume leaks changed iac valve ,egr,cap and rotor,adjust throttle positioning sensor with butterfly

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  • keith_chevy Oct 14, 2008

    i have a 1991 chevy k1500 with a tbi 350 and it doesn't want to idle when cold but it gets better when warmed up put new tps,o2 and no change what should i do? i need help this is how i get to work

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Slimsoul, a bad fuel pressure regulator would cause a problem similar to this. You may already know this but a fuel pressure regulator kinda works backwards from the way you would think. When your car is at idle it produces the most amount of vacuum which power things like brakes. As your RPM's increase your vacuum drops. When a fuel pressure regulator recieves 0 vacuum it fully opens and allows the most amount fuel to flow through. So, you mash on the gas from idle and the car stumbles from lack of fuel. A common cause of this is because the regulator diaphram has a hole in it, which causes it to open slowly. There is a very simple test for this that, yes, even you can try at home. I'm assuming your corvette is a C4 (84-96). Open the hood, stand on the passengers side, and stare towards the back of the plenum just in front of the distributor. Now look underneath the upper plenum, and attatched to the lower manifold at an approximate 45 deg angle is a round piece that kinda resembles a top hat. This is your regulator. There should be a hard black plastic vacuum line attatched to the regulator. Now for the tricky part, unplug it and crank the car. If the regulator is in fact the problem, this should at least improve if not eliminate your problem. If it does not, my next step would be to check your fuel pressure with a fuel pressure gauge available at Autozone for around $40. A TPI motor needs at least 40 psi to operate properly. Back to the regulator, if it is in fact the problem your going to have to replace the diaphram in the regulator which is somewhat of a pain. You have to pull off the throttle body and upper plenum to get to it. Additionally the FPR is secured with special security torx bits, I believe its a T5. The plenum runner gaskets and throttle body gaskets will need to be replaced if they're original. If you're not somewhat handy I would suggest taking it to a shop to do the job.

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OPERATION



The Idle Air Control (IAC) is a bi-directional motor driven by two coils. The purpose of the IAC valve is to control engine idle speed, while preventing stalls due to changes in the engine load. The IAC valve, mounted in the throttle body, controls bypass air around the throttle plate. The PCM controls engine idle speed by adjusting the position of the IAC motor pintle. The PCM pulses current to the IAC coils in small steps (counts) to extend the pintle into a passage in the throttle body to decrease air flow. The PCM reverses the current pulses to retract the pintle, increasing air flow. This method allows highly accurate control of idle speed and quick response to changes in engine load. If RPM is too low, the PCM will retract the IAC pintle, resulting in more air being bypassed around the throttle plate to increase RPM. If the RPM is too high, the PCM will extend the IAC pintle, allowing less air to be bypassed around the throttle plate, decreasing RPM.



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Fig. Typical Idle Air Control (IAC) valve components
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  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
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To install:



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Fig. The Idle Air Control (IAC) valve is mounted on the throttle body-3.8L (VIN K) engine shown, others similar


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  1. Use a new O-ring, install the IAC valve and tighten the retaining screws to 18 inch lbs. (2 Nm).
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  3. Connect the negative battery cable.
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