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Everything works electric wise, so not battery. Turn key in ignition and it does nothing. Like it's immobilized. Thinking starter motor or wiring thing. Has happened before then after a few hours it started no worries. I have an AU2 Futura Classic 2001 model.

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  • Anonymous Sep 16, 2008

    have a 1986 ford pickup went to put the key in lights came on but no noise like engine dead, few times it kicked over trying to start but no starting up!! that was after playing with the igition switch, truck has new starter so dont know what the problem is?????

  • Anonymous Sep 23, 2008

    I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM....I CHARGED THE BATTERY ALL NIGHT AND THE STUPID CAR STILL ONLY GOES TICK,TICK,TICK,TICK WHEN I TRY TO START IT. WHAT IS IT?

  • agro2342 Nov 04, 2008

    i have an eb 92model can start at the starter but not with key checked everything tried different batteries will run for short time then cut out wont start again

  • kadillacmike Nov 20, 2008

    my 98 windstar wont start with the key.if i jump across the starter solinoid it will start. could it be the nutral saftey switch or the ignition switch?

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Everything works so it's not the battery huh? You'd better have the battery over to a shop that can test it under load before spending any more time or money. A friend of mine asked me to fix his car's starting problem that sounds just like yours. Before I started troubleshooting he said, "I just replaced the battery a couple of months ago so I know it's good." Well, he buys a starter and I put it in. Same problem. I take the battery back to Checkers, they test it and it fails. They give a new battery and tadaaaa, problem fixed. Too bad they wouldn't take the starter back though. They would have had I not cranked the engine. New batteries can be defective too. Don't take shortcuts.

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