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Getting this error message when trying to put top down.: System error - No convertible top operation. the sunroof though does work.

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Sounds like the guide strings might be broken. Check the guide strings if they are ok. The strings are the one that is moving inside the roof pilars.

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I have a 2007 mustang convertible top that will not go down. with key on windows go to park down position but no hydraulic pump sound checking fuses to ensure good power. where should i begin?


Principles of Operation
Convertible top operation is controlled by the smart junction box (SJB). When the convertible top raise/lower switch is operated, the SJB commands the front and rear windows to the full down position. Window operation is disabled while the convertible top raise/lower switch is being operated. When the SJB receives a full down input for both rear windows, it commands the appropriate relay closed to raise or lower the convertible top. If the SJB does not receive a full down input signal for both rear windows, the convertible top operation is disabled.

The convertible top hydraulic system uses a 12 volt reversible pump and motor assembly. When active, the pump uses hydraulic pressure to extend the hydraulic lift cylinders to raise the convertible top, or retract the hydraulic lift cylinders to lower the convertible top. The convertible top motor/pump assembly is equipped with a thermal circuit breaker. The circuit breaker typically resets after 5 minutes depending on the ambient temperature. The thermal circuit breaker cannot be repaired and must be installed as a unit with the motor/pump assembly. In the event of a hydraulic system failure, the convertible top cannot be operated manually.

Inspection and Verification
  1. Verify the customer concern.
  1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical or electrical damage.


Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Convertible top brackets and frame
  • Convertible top latches
  • Convertible top pump and motor assembly
  • Hydraulic lift cylinders
  • Hydraulic lines
  • Bussed electrical center (BEC) fuse(s):
    • 13 (40A)
    • 51 (10A)
  • Circuitry
  • Convertible top pump and motor assembly
  • Convertible top ajar switch
  • Convertible top switch
  • Connector(s)
  • Convertible top raise relay
  • Convertible top lower relay
  • LH or RH rear power window motor
  • Smart junction box (SJB)
  • BEC

  1. If an obvious cause for an observed or reported concern is found, correct the cause (if possible) before proceeding to the next step.
  1. If the cause is not visually evident, connect the scan tool to the data link connector (DLC) and select the vehicle to be tested from the scan tool menu. If the scan tool does not communicate with the vehicle:
    • check that the program card is correctly installed.
    • check the connections to the vehicle.
    • check the ignition switch position.
  1. If the scan tool still does not communicate with the vehicle, refer to the scan tool operating manual.
  1. Carry out the scan tool data link test. If the scan tool responds with:
    • CAN or ISO circuit fault; all electronic control units no response/not equipped, refer to Section 418-00 .
    • No response/not equipped for SJB; refer to Section 419-10 .
    • System passed, retrieve and record the continuous diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs), erase the continuous DTCs, and carry out self-test diagnostics for the SJB.
  1. If the DTCs retrieved are related to the concern, go to the Smart Junction Box (SJB) Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index.
  1. If no DTCs related to the concern are retrieved, GO to Symptom Chart .
  2. Smart Junction Box (SJB) Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index DTC Description Source Action B1141 Convertible Top Full Down Position Switch Circuit Failure SJB Go To Pinpoint Test E . B1142 Convertible Top Full Up Position Switch Circuit Failure SJB Go To Pinpoint Test E . B1402 Driver Power Window Down Switch Circuit Failure SJB Go To Pinpoint Test A . B2068 Convertible Top Up Output Circuit Failure SJB Go To Pinpoint Test A . B2069 Convertible Top Down Output Circuit Failure SJB Go To Pinpoint Test A . B2481 Convertible Top Up/Down Switch Fault SJB Go To Pinpoint Test A . B2578 Passenger Power Window Down Switch Circuit Failure SJB Go To Pinpoint Test A . All Other DTCs - SJB Refer to Section 419-10 .
  3. Your best bet ,take it to a qualified repair shop !

Nov 05, 2017 | Cars & Trucks

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Sunroof is stuck open and tried to reset it by holding button down for ten seconds and then it moves about half an inch and stays fully open. What do I need to do to get it to close?


Hi Thomas , First you should have it diagnosed by someone who has the tool to do so ! upscale scan tool , factory scan tool !
Diagnostic Starting Point - Roof
Begin the diagnosis with the Diagnostic System Check - Power Sunroof . The Diagnostic System Check will provide the following information:
?€¢
The identification of the control modules which command the system


?€¢
The ability of the control modules to communicate through the serial data circuit


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The identification of any stored DTCs and their status

The use of the Diagnostic System Check will identify the correct procedure for diagnosing the system and where the procedure is located.
Symptoms
When no DTCs ( diagnostic trouble codes ) are present, begin symptom diagnosis by reviewing the
Sunroof Description and Operation . Reviewing the Description and Operation information will help you determine the correct symptom diagnostic procedure when a malfunction exists. Reviewing the Description and Operation information will also help you determine if the condition described by the customer is normal operation. Refer to Symptoms - Roof in order to identify the correct procedure for diagnosing the system and where the procedure is located.
Important: If the suspected cause of an inoperative sunroof is a power interruption to the sunroof module, the sunroof must be re-initialized. Refer to Sunroof Motor/Actuator Synchronization .
Important: The following must be completed before using the symptom tables.

  1. Perform Diagnostic Starting Point - Roof in order to verify that all of the following are true:
  2. ?€¢
    There are no DTCs set.


    ?€¢
    The control module(s) can communicate via the serial data link.

  3. Review the system operation in order to familiarize yourself with the system functions. Refer to Sunroof Description and Operation .
Visual/Physical Inspection
?€¢
Inspect for aftermarket devices which could affect the operation of the Power Sunroof system. Refer to
Checking Aftermarket Accessories in Wiring Systems.


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Inspect the easily accessible or visible system components for obvious damage or conditions which could cause the symptom.

Intermittent
Faulty electrical connections or wiring may be the cause of intermittent conditions. Refer to
Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems.
Symptom List
Refer to a symptom diagnostic procedure from the following list in order to diagnose the symptom:
?€¢
Power Sunroof Inoperative


?€¢
Power Sunroof Does Not Open to Express Position


?€¢
Retained Accessory Power (RAP) On After Timeout in Retained Accessory Power, if the power sunroof should operate longer than 20 minutes after the ignition has been turned OFF


This information is right out of GMC service repair manual !
Sunroof Motor/Actuator Synchronization
Synchronization will be necessary anytime the sunroof module battery positive voltage circuit is interrupted. The sunroof module will be synchronized when the controller learns the full vent position. The sunroof system will ignore any open request until the system has been synchronized.
To synchronize the sunroof:

  1. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  2. Using the close/tilt up portion of the sunroof switch, operate the sunroof glass until it reaches the full vent position.
  3. Verify that the system operates normally.
Once the sunroof glass reaches the full vent position, the actual position is stored in the memory of the sunroof module. The sunroof module will stop the motor one motor revolution before the defined actual positions.

Mar 24, 2015 | 2004 GMC Yukon XL

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Each time it rains, I get water leak in the trunk of my audi allroad in the cargo area. How do I fix this problem?


Can't fix anything till you find out where the leak is

Get inside & have someone run the hose on it

Remove whatever trim you have to,to see the water
entering

May 02, 2014 | Audi Cars & Trucks

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'08, opening top: will open half way and stop,


Something broke. Hope your warrenty still covers it since your going to need a diag and a dealer part. Its your only option

May 11, 2010 | 2007 Volkswagen EOS Convertible

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2007 Mini Cooper Convertible top doesn't open all the way when I push the button.


The top down function is a two step process...1- hold button until sunroof is all the way open then release button. 2- Press and hold button again until top goes all the way down.

If you try this and it still doesn't work , note the light on the button. If it's flashing it indicates a fault... most likely an obstruction. Check that latches on rear cargo shelf are firmly latched. Check that parcel shelf is firmly down. (open and firmly close all three of these things and try again)


cheers

Feb 20, 2010 | 2007 Mini Cooper S Convertible

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The convertible top of my 2004 saab aero stopped working, the message i received at first was that there was something in the trunk that was keeping the top from coming down. now when I push the top...


  1. How did you obtain the message about something is in the trunk? I take it the top will not even begin to move when you try to operate it.

Sep 14, 2017 | 2004 Saab 9-3

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My convertible top will not operate. what can i


I have 1997 mercedes benz sl500 after changing my battery, my roll bars will not go down. how do I get my roll bar back down?

Aug 13, 2009 | 1998 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class

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Sunroof will not operate


The first thing to check is the motor it should be under the interior light for operation and next is the tracking system for the sunroof and try to lubricate it so the roof does not hang up these motors on volvo sunroofs are not that strong and even a stuck gasket around the top can make it stuck beacause of the rubber getting hot from the sun

May 13, 2009 | 2000 Volvo V70

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Trunk,backend of car stuck in up position


My 2007 EOS stops with the truck up in the air, going up or down, when the temperature is very hot. The manual says if the hydraulic fluid gets too hot, you must wait for it to cool. I find this unsatisfactory as I live in a very hot state. I had it in the shop several times, then found this in the manual, and took it in again last week; the service manager at the dealer says he has seen reports of this, but there is not solution that he knows of. I am contracting the National Headquarters this week, and then an attorney if they do not remedy it as I only have a few more months of warranty to work with them....hope this helps.

Apr 20, 2009 | 2007 Volkswagen EOS Convertible

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The top on my 2005 mini cooper s will not go down .


often times this problem ends up needing a front sunroof section of the conv top replaced. The cable that drives the hooks to unlatch is most likely broken and that is currently the only fix. EXPENSIVE. Sorry

Jan 19, 2009 | 2007 Mini Cooper S Convertible

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