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2004 Hyundai Santa Fe. Bank 1 Sensor 1 O2 sensor stuck at 360 mv. Fuel trim at 10%. No codes. Fuel milage has dropped. Replaced O2 sensor with dealer part. O2 sensor still not moving. Also, maybe not related, clock resets contantly and radio and PRNDL lif\ghts seem dimmer.

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Replace the 02 upstream sensor... best solution

Posted on Apr 08, 2011

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  • Brian Simpson Apr 08, 2011

    Already replaced bank 1 sensor 1...still stuck at 360 mv.

  • PAUL MC G
    PAUL MC G Apr 09, 2011

    Ok... this is gonna take some time. The 04 Santa Fe came with 3 (three) different/possible engines -- the 4 Cylinder 2.4 lit, the 2.7 V6, and the 3.5 V6. Only the 2.4 (4 cyl) and the 3.5 V6 are equipped with EGR. The 2.7 does NOT have EGR. Malfunctioning jEGR systems have been known to affect fuel trims (as you mentioned 10% (but you didn't mention if the 10% was a 'LEAN' condition or a 'RICH' condition. You describe a condition which can be caused by several different systems. First of all, it could be a clogged/restricted catalytic converter. Also, there could be an air leak (vacuum or exhaust), another is wiring/connectors/connections, and finally, the ECU/PCM (Engine Control Unit/Powertrain Control Module). Each of the systems would require IN-DEPTH discussion/explanation and illustration -- which is hardly worthwhile here on FixYa.

    The issue concerning the digital clock resetting or the PRNDL lights being dimmer is a 'separate' electrical system to the EMS (Engine Management System) wire harness... two separate wiring harnesses.

    Since I cannot see/touch the vehicle physically, the best (short-term) advice I can offer you is to have the problem/issue properly diagnosed by a competently trained Hyundai technician.

  • Brian Simpson Apr 16, 2011

    The problem stared with the Hyundai dealership. It started loosing gas mileage after the last service and has never been the same. I am an ASE Master Certified tech and am capable of handling the problem, but I have exhausted every resource I can think of to fix the problem and thought there might be a common odd problem for this. It is the 3.5 L engine and yes it is 10% lean. I did find the EGR valve leaking with a smoke test and it has been replaced, but oddly didn't change the trim. Cannot find any vacuum or exhaust leaks. I was finally able to get the Modis to communicate and found that it must have been the other scanner that was only reading 360 mv for bank 1 sensor 1. It does move as it should, but the lean condition is still there. Timing marks are dead on. I did notice that the rear O2s move around a little more than normal which is leaning me towards the cats, but I don't want to drop that kind of dough into it if this isn't going to fix it. I have a feeling that the dealership burned the cats up because they are doing fuel injection cleanings on this car every 15,000 miles and the last time she picked the vehicle up, it ran terrible. She took it straight back and they had the car for a bit and said it was fine and it magically ran fine which makes me think they either left the vacuum line they used off or the over loaded it with cleaner and burned up the cats. This is just a frustrating diag.

  • PAUL MC G
    PAUL MC G Apr 21, 2011

    You mention you're an ASE Master Certified tech ??? Then you know (as well as I) that the 'lean' condition can be:
    1. intake leak (whichever bank)
    2. defective 02 snsr
    3. clogged injector(s)
    4. restrictive CAT(s)
    5. Wiring/connectors/connections
    6. Defective MAF - You didn't mention whether the "lean" condition was isolated to just one bank or both

  • Brian Simpson Apr 21, 2011

    What's with the ???. It is bank one that is 10% lean. I have checked the intake for leaks by adding alternative fuel. Changed bank 1 sensor 1 because I thought it was stuck but had the same readings with new dealer part. Come to find out it was the scanner that was stuck, not the sensor. Can't be the MAF because it is only one bank, but have cleaned it anyways. Thought about injectors, but haven't had any poor running issues and killing the injectors makes a very noticeable change to the idle. That is why I posted the question on here, to see if there was a "competently trained Hyundai technician" that had any insight on any strange common problems for this condition. And you forgot fuel pump and other vacuum leaks on your list of possibilities for a lean condition, by the way.

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    PAUL MC G Apr 22, 2011

    Ok then... fine! The Hyundai 3.5 lit V6 requires the same environment as any other make/model vehicle. If you trust that the O2 snsr is operating properly, then you can trust it. My research into your issue turned up nothing of consequence.... standard diagnostic procedures apply here.
    There's obviously more air than fuel getting to one (or more) cylnders on BANK 1. A lean code can be set even if only ONE cylinder is "LEAN." I'd speculate this 'LEAN' condition could be a result of 'garbage' in memory of the PCM (Powertrain Control Module). Suggestion: Try ZEROing out the computer (ECU/PCM/ECM) by disconnecting the negative battery cable and connecting a jumper wire between the positive (+) and negative (-) CABLES for 1 minute. This will WIPE any data in the computer's memory and it will have to 'RELOAD' the program/software from the EPROM. This SOMETIMES clears up issues which can't be resolved otherwise... it's a shot (in the dark).

  • Brian Simpson Apr 23, 2011

    I already tried reseting the adaptives that way with no change. Looks like I will just have to dig deeper.

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