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My front brakes were grinding so changed pads and rotors...now the noise is worse and seems to be more if not all on the passenger side. It's way worse then before i fixed them. Any suggestions on what else could be wrong?

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My first suggestion would be to take it apart and re-inspect everything. double check that you have it put together right. when you install brakes you should be able to turn the rotor and hear if something is rubbing. if all is on right then you may have a caliper that is hanging up and engaging the brakes all the time.

Posted on Apr 07, 2011

  • riverlake08 Apr 07, 2011

    Thank you. Going to look tomorrow and was thinking maybe the caliper too. Appreciate it, I'll let you know how it goes.

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