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Trying to change the front rotors on a 2001 toyota land cruiser. Took the outer 6 nuts off, dust cover off, pin off, now can't make anything else move. Do I need a special tool?

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  • Jody Cox Apr 02, 2011

    Thanks, but not the same model. It's a 2001 Land Cruiser, AWD so the rotor doesn't just slip off. There is an outer hub that has to come off first. It has 6 nuts which are removed, the dust cover has been removed, but I'm now stuck.

  • Jody Cox Apr 02, 2011

    Thanks, but not the same model. It's a 2001 Land Cruiser, AWD so the rotor doesn't just slip off. There is an outer hub that has to come off first. It has 6 nuts which are removed, the dust cover has been removed, but I'm now stuck.

  • Jody Cox Apr 02, 2011

    This diagram looks correct, except that whatever this is that the snap ring goes over is different. It's threaded in the center for no apparant reason.

  • Jody Cox Apr 02, 2011

    Changing front rotors on a 2001 Toyota Land Cruiser. I've removed the tire/wheel, brake caliper, outer 6 bolts of hub, dust cover, and holding pin. Don't know how to get this next piece off.

  • Jody Cox Apr 02, 2011

    Bingo, it is the hub drive flange that I'm having trouble getting out. It looks like it should come straight out to me as well, but it's not cooperative. It looks like the inside has a reverse threading as if there is a special tool for removing it. Thanks for your help.

  • Jody Cox Apr 02, 2011

    Thank you.

  • Jody Cox Apr 03, 2011

    Thanks. One of them told me flat out it isn't a diy job because it requires a press. Another sent detailed instructions that looked like mine, but it apparently was for a '94. I'm thinking I'll throw in the towel on this one and take it to an expert.....

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Hi.
conventional wisdom says that these are NOT something you can do at home.
you cannot use a pullers, as the centre of the pullers can only go against the driveshaft, and the pressure will damage the CV joint.
the bearing and rotor assembly are press fitted into place, and usually need to be removed from the rear with a hydraulic press unit.
a slide hammer is either not heavy enough, or the sudden impact from a heavy slide hammer is likely to damage the rotor
the truck (or at least the bottom of the strut) needs to be taken to a workshop equipped with a hydraulic press.
this is the recomendation from the land cruiser owners club.
if there was an easier way to do this job, those guys would have found it.

sorry i cannot be more help, but the owners club would have found another way if they thought it was safe and not likely to cause damage.

Posted on Apr 02, 2011

  • paul miles Apr 02, 2011

    hi.

    thanks for the photo. that makes it much easier to identify.
    that cover should now come off. spray with penetrating oil, and hit with rubber mallet.
    it is probably held in place with light corrosion and time.

  • paul miles Apr 02, 2011

    try this link. the photos are pretty good and show quite clearly what happens.
    penetrating oil and rubber mallet are definately the way to go.
    http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/2...

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By the outer 6 nuts, I assume you mean the lug nuts for the wheel? Have you taken the brake caliper off? With the wheel off and the caliper off, the rotor can come off. You can see that in the exploded view below. If it's stuck, hit it or pry it. You can pry between the rotor and the caliper bracket. Take a look at what I had to do yesterday to get one off that was rusted on. I finally got it loose when I pounded the chisel between the rotor and the steering knuckle.

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    Jeff Turcotte Apr 02, 2011

    OK, sorry, I wasn't looking right. I see what you are saying. That flange needs to come out of there. Let me look and see if there is a procedure for getting it out.

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    Jeff Turcotte Apr 02, 2011

    The procedure for the spindle goes like this:
    Remove or disconnect the following:


    Front wheel, Brake caliper, Grease cap, Snapring, Hub drive flange, Locknut, Lockwasher, Adjusting nut, Outer bearing, Wheel hub, etc.

    So I think the flange is supposed to come straight out. Are those studs screwed into the flange or doesn't it slip over them? It looks in the diagram that it slips over them.
    Sorry, I have not worked on this model before.

  • Jeff Turcotte
    Jeff Turcotte Apr 02, 2011

    there is no tool mentioned in the manual. I will see if I can get ahold of our Toyota expert to see if he can help. Or maybe he's helping you now. Sorry--this shouldn't be this hard.

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    Jeff Turcotte Apr 03, 2011

    Hi, I did not see the answer from the other expert, but I assume he helped you out. Just in case you are still stuck, I did get this answer from one of our Toyota guys: "You need to go inside the hub flange and push down the lock tabs for the top nut, remove it, then remove the lock flange, then remove the second nut, the slide the hub and bearings off the axle. "
    It made sense to me, but from the pic you sent I didn't see the lock tabs he's talking about.

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    Jeff Turcotte Apr 03, 2011

    Geez, I see no need for a press, but I guess the exploded view I have may not be right. So that gold colored nutlike thing on the end isn't screwed onto the axle? There aren't lock tabs coming out of the hub that are locking that nut?

  • Jeff Turcotte
    Jeff Turcotte Apr 03, 2011

    Hi again. I felt really bad about this. I think maybe there was a design change and the exploded diagram I have might be for a later version. You definitley have something else on the end of that halfshaft. I zoomed in a little and I think I can see material raised up from that locknut (3 places?). Is it up into an indented spot on the flange? If it is, I think you can pry that down with a screwdriver and then maybe that thing would turn with a vice grip or channel lock. You can hold the rotor with a big screwdriver between the lug studs if it's turning on you. It should not really be tightened that hard, since it's the nuts deeper in that are compressing the bearings. And I don't think those bearings need any press. I think they're going to come right out. You will have to reach in--and maybe will need a big deep well socket to loosen those bearing nuts. You may have decided to give up, but you seem like a pretty good mechanic to me. Hope this helps you.

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