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No brake lights, turn sig ok. which fuse do I check?

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CHECK BRAKE BULBS ./BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH/FUSE

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08 Buick lucerne cxl. Third brake light works as well as front signal lights. No rear brake lights or turn signals. Tail lights and headlights and third brake lights works. Bulbs good. Help


Stop Lamps
The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The body control module (BCM) provides a 5-volt reference voltage and low reference to the brake pedal position sensor. The position sensor provides an analog voltage signal back to the BCM that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. When the brake is applied, the BCM will then apply battery voltage to the left and right stop/turn signal lamp supply voltage circuits and the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL) supply voltage circuit illuminating the stop lamps. At the same time the BCM applies battery voltage through the signal circuit to the transmission control module (TCM) and the engine control module (ECM) indicating that the brakes are applied.
Ground for the stop lamps is supplied as follows:
• G402 provides ground for the left rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps
• G403 provides ground for the right rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps
• G301 provides ground for the CHMSL
The stop lamps on this vehicle will not illuminate unless the ignition is in the accessory, run, or crank positions. When the ignition is in the OFF position the stop lamps will not illuminate when the brake pedal is applied.
Battery voltage from the LT TRN/SIG and RT TRN/SIG fuses located in the rear fuse block is also used by the body control module (BCM) for stop lamp operation.

Turn Signal Lamps
Battery voltage supplied to the body control module (BCM) from the fuses listed below is used for turn signal and hazard lamp operation.
• LT TRN/SIG fuse for the left turn signals
• CTSY/RF TRN fuse for the right front turn signal
• RR TRN/SIG fuse for the right rear turn signal
When the turn signal switch is place in either the LEFT or RIGHT position, ground from G300 is applied through the turn signal switch signal circuit to the BCM indicating the turn signal request. In response to this signal, the BCM applies a pulsating voltage to the front and rear turn signal lamps supply voltage circuits cycling the lamps ON and OFF. At the same time the BCM sends a GMLAN serial data message to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) to cycle the appropriate turn signal indicator ON and OFF.
Ground for the turn signal lamps is supplied as follows:
• G104 provides ground for the left and right front turn signal lamps
• G402 provides ground for the left rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps
• G403 provides ground for the right rear stop/tail/turn signal lamps

Do you have a factory scan tool (tech2) ? Your best bet , take it to the dealer .

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Turn signals not working and brake lights not working


replace brake light switch @ BRAKE PEDAL, next, replace turnsignal flasher under dash, check for blown fuse, if turn sig. still doesn't work, check turnsig., switch, & or for loose connection.

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I have a 93 Jeep cherokee brake lights don't work


Check the Brake peddle switch, or the turn signal switch ( all the lights go through the turn sig switch ) Or check the brake light fuse. Make sure the lights are not burned out by chance also.

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2009 Impala rear lights not working


Turn Signal Lamps
The LT T/SIG and RT T/SIG fuses located in the underhood fuse block supplies battery positive voltage to the body control module (BCM) for turn signal and hazard lamp operation. When the turn signal switch is place in either the LEFT or RIGHT position, ground from G202 is applied through the turn signal switch signal circuit to the BCM indicating the turn signal request. In response to this signal, the BCM applies a pulsating voltage to the front and rear turn signal lamps supply voltage circuits cycling the lamps ON and OFF. The BCM also sends a message via GMLAN to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) to cycle the turn signal indicator ON and OFF depending on the position of the turn signal switch.
Ground for the turn signal lamps is supplied as follows:
• G101 provides ground for the left front turn signal lamp
• G100 provides ground for the right front turn signal lamp
• G302 provides ground for the left and right rear turn signal lamps

The LT T/SIG and RT T/SIG fuses located in the underhood fuse block are also used by the body control module (BCM) for stop lamp operation.
The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The body control module (BCM) provides both, a 5-volt reference voltage and low reference to the brake pedal position sensor. The position sensor provides an analog voltage signal back to the BCM that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. When the brake pedal is applied, the BCM will then apply battery voltage to the left and right stop lamp supply voltage circuits and the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL) supply voltage circuit illuminating the stop lamps. At the same time the BCM signals the transmission control module (TCM) and the engine control module (ECM) that the brakes are applied. Ground for all stop lamps is provided at G302.
The stop lamps on this vehicle will not illuminate unless the ignition is in the accessory, run, or crank positions. When the ignition is in the OFF position the stop lamps will not illuminate when the brake pedal is applied.

Did you check the fuse's. ? Wouldn't think it's a ground because right an left tail lamp Assembly's use same ground ! Did you check for B+ voltage at the bulb. with a volt meter ? Power is supplied by the BCM . Could be the tail lamp assembly

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I just purchased a 1996 cavalier. It didn't have an owners manual and i need to know what the abrieviations on the fuse box stand for. I'm trying to find the fuse for the brake lights and rear turn...


Hi, the likely problem is the turn signal switch. The signals and brake lights use different fuses. You can get an owners manual here:
http://www.extendedgmwarranty.com/owners-manual/chevrolet/1996-Chevrolet-Cavalier.pdf

A new switch is about $40, and it isn't too hard to replace. Make sure you get one that has the same controls as yours does. To replace the switch, remove the covers from the steering column, disconnect the switch and unscrew it from the column.

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I replace my brake switch & my light don't work? when i stop


IF THE FUSES INSIDE THE CAR & UNDER THE HOOD HAVE ALL BEEN CHECKED WITH A GOOD FUSE TESTER, & THE BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH REPLACED, THE TURN SIGNAL SWITCH IS NEXT. THE BRAKE LIGHTS GO THROUGH THE TURN SIGNAL SWITCH SO THEY CAN BE USED AS TURN OR BRAKE LIGHTS. I'M ASSUMING THE BULBS ARE OK. REMOVE THE PLASTIC FROM AROUND THE TURN SIG. SWITCH. STAY AWAY FROM ANY WIRES THAT ARE IN THE YELLOW SLEEVE. THEY ARE AIR BAG WIRES. WITH BRAKE PEDAL DEPRESSED, THERE SHOULD BE POWER IN THE WHITE WIRE. IF THERE IS NO POWER IN THE WHITE WIRE, YOU MAY HAVE TO PUT A BYPASS WIRE FROM THE WHITE WIRE COMING OUT OF THE BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH TO THE WHITE WIRE GOING INTO THE TURN SIGNAL SWITCH. IF THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE BRAKE LIGHTS WORK, THE TURN SIGNAL SWITCH MUST BE BAD.

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check brake light switch on brake pedal could have pushed out of its scket or its possibly bad .try holding brake pedal down and pushing brake light switch in some then release brake pedal and check to see if lights go out

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Dash wiring


sounds like the switch... these cars are notorious for this problem, some lights will work and some wont.

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