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I have a 93 olds ciera, my step daughters car no power to any windows. I have. Checked the circet breaker (good) I have replaced the the master switch the drivers side motor was replaced a few years ago it tested good. voltmeter on the motor plug showes only 2.33 volts when I operate the switch (Shouldn"t it be 12) where the ground? Her boy fiend tried to work on this now I have to clean this mess up any idea's

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  • Tom Smith Mar 28, 2011

    what does the CM look like and where in the door would I start looking

  • Tom Smith Mar 29, 2011

    ok thanks for the info, got my work hours changed so it will be a day or two before I chase it down

    I"ll let ya know what happens Thanks

  • Tom Smith Apr 07, 2011

    I'm still looking a lot of rain here and the cars in the drive bear with me

  • Tom Smith Apr 13, 2011

    found it ,went to bone yard and got one still no luck whats next

  • Tom Smith Apr 20, 2011

    still scratchinh my head I"m just about ready to start yanking wire. is the blk ground?

  • Tom Smith Apr 26, 2011

    don't know yet its still raining any chance i get to work on it. I did have power to the WDO
    when I frist started checking I picked up a coulpa 30 CB when I got the modgoal

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Hi, since you have replaced the main switch, the problem must be with the connector, wiring, or control module. Check all terminals in the main switch connector. If they look good, replace the control module. It's probably clipped to the door. You may be able to find one at a salvage yard.

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    Jeffrey Turcotte Mar 28, 2011

    the brown wire with a white stripe on the driver's window motor leads directly to the module. Follow that wire to find the module. It may be under the dash. In that case, it will probably near the left side of the dash where the wires come in from the door.

  • Jeffrey Turcotte
    Jeffrey Turcotte Mar 29, 2011

    No worries. I'll be here...

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    Jeffrey Turcotte Apr 07, 2011

    still no worries--stay dry.

  • Jeffrey Turcotte
    Jeffrey Turcotte Apr 13, 2011

    well, that's a bummer, sorry. We're down to the wiring then. We'll have to go pin-to-pin on the driver's switch to figure out what is wrong. Take the connector off the switch and probe the connector. Do you have battery voltage between the pink and black wires when the key is on? If yes, jumper those wires to the brown and dark blue wires to see if the driver's window motor will turn. Switch the wires to reverse direction.
    If you don't have battery voltage at the connector, check voltage at the 30 amp WDO fuse.

  • Jeffrey Turcotte
    Jeffrey Turcotte Apr 20, 2011

    yes, black is ground. Do you have battery voltage between the black and pink wires?

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Action
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Yes
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