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My celica usually takes 2 to 3 trys to start when it has been sitting for more than a few hours.I had the starter tested it is good,but a mechanic told me it was the flywheel causing this(automatic transmission).Would the flywheel being worn cause this symptom,or could it be something else too.

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It's probably the fuel pump problem. You might loosen the pipe after fuel filter and check for the fuel pressure

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