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I have a 2000 Plymouth Voyager 4cyl 2.4L with 77,000 miles on it. Last year I had the fuel filter, fuel pump, water pump and serpentine belt replaced. The oil was changed in October. The car had been running /hesitating and I thought that it was because of bad gas. I used fuel treatments and it seemed to work but the problem only resurfaced. Last month, as I was driving around 55mph, I heard rattling and then it sounded like something fell off the car but I couldn't tell because this happened at night. Immediately I lost power in the accelerator and the check engine light fluttered. The car never shut off but I slowed down and coasted slowly to the next light. Parked the car for an hour and was able to drive it home slowly. When I tried to take it up to speed it seemed like it was going to shut off by hesitating badly. Days after that I would start the car an was able to drive it short distances at low speeds but there was a lot of hesitation, to the point where it sounded like it wanted to shut off when I came to a stop. At that point I would put the car in neutral and the hesitating would stop. That trick only lasted for a little while and eventually stopped working. A friend of mine drove the car, heard popping under the hood and thought it wasn't getting a good spark. He recommended changing the plugs. Every day the car was taking longer to start. I'd have to turn the key for a longer duration everyday until one morning it didn't start at all. I towed it to the shop and they replaced the spark plugs. It worked fine for two weeks and now although the car is no longer hesitating, it is taking longer to turn on in the morning, like before. I don't know what to do?

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    Thank you. I will try your suggestions.

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You have failed to do the most important test there is, that is the fault code test of the OBD2 electronic engine control system, Kragen and other discount auto part stores do this test for free, it will show if any fault codes are present in the computer control unit for the engine electronic fuel injection.

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I am not able to figure out the rattling and the Fall out sound before all the problems started.
It seems to me that one of the plugs failed and this resulted in misfiring which was sometime like a BACKFIRE due to a false timing. Now when the plugs were changed the fault was rectified but your early morning poor starting condition is a result of POOR TUNING/TIMING.

I would request that the sparks gaps be checked and the spark INTENSITY be checked so that you have a good firing in the cold engine specially in the morning. Added to the fact that the fuel settings must be checked specially the fuel pump calibration. This is very much important to have the best firing mixture for a cold start or a possible weak engine, in case you have a poor compression on the engine.( if so get this checked on all four cylinders)
Finally please check the grade of your fuel and maybe upgrade if available to confirm this fault. Also the spark plugs will indicate the fuel mixture which can guide you for a good settings till you get a fully burned clean plug with no residue or deposits around.
Hope this works out.

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