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I have changed the 2 fuel pumps, filter, temp. switch, map sensor, plugs, wires, fuel pressure switch and the list goes on but when I put it in gear and start letting out on the cluch it looses fuel pressure and cuts off

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This is something I have not heard of before. I suspect it can have something to do with the Interlock switch on the Clutch pedal. Does the engine also cut out putting it into Neutral?
Check under your dash for switches on the pedal levers. Many times people get no-starts when a switch is dislocated by a shoe. Yours could be starting and then losing the Ground when the clutch pedal moves.

The Relays in the Powerbox for your fuelpump and Ignition may also be a good place to check too. Some of the Relay terminals are Ground terminals and once the truck is running the Interlock switch is not suppose to matter. The PCM is suppose to control the Relays and if a Ground is corroded the truck is searching for a Ground somewhere.

When I read your request I was wondering if the fuelpump is shutting off early causing your truck to cut out. The defect is loss of a Ground or power to the fuelpump.

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I have a 1990 jeep wrangler 4 banger 2.5l manual tranny She runs and starts fine but I can only drive about 1 mile before it starts losing power. It gets to the point where I'll be in first gear trying to...


do a 60k tune up first, all below assumes you did, spark parts, filters. dah?
first off the engine EFI runs a map sensor, (called speed density system)
so that means if the engine can pump air (compression tests PASS)

the MAP see that, air flow (calcs) and matches air with proper fuel.
1990 is a vary bad year, it has the horrid, Renix french pos EFI system. (owned 2, can taLK days on this ecu FROM H3LL)

but there is no CEL lamp, nor any scan tool , that will work here.
(unless you can find a working DRB tool, ) NO FLASH CODES !!!
above poster never seen RENIX, so.. .answers wrong. ITS OK.
1993 this changed (Chrysler) and started OBD1 ECU which we can scan easy. (innova 3140)

all this means is you must be smarter than the average bear.
are you>? got tools, meters. and all that? you will need it.
and a FSM book or login to alldata.com like we do.


if compression test pass, and vacuum at 19" idle and gunned throttle drops low fast and if you release throttle it goes why high fast 25inches>? and goes to 19inchs again, the engine is ok and cat not melted, all that in 5min work (vacuum tests) and vacuum not bouncing? 1 glance, no its steady vavcuum.
so I wave my magic wand, go, gee engine is ok.
i then check fuel pressure use a REAL gage.
it idle and throttle gunned. for spec pressures.

if all that pans out> whats next? well EFI is next,.
i check the MAP sensor voltage at 3 points.
key on, idle and gunned. for spec, readings. if not map is bad. or just clogged.
check all the other sensor by hand is next. and ill not attempt do post what ever mech ,knows here, "basics"
a volt meter , you can check them, ECT, IAT, etc.

my wild guess low fuel pressure. (BASE ON OK 1 MILE)
or FPR stuck wide open' (bad fuel pump reg)
or a bad wire to fuel pump, such that pump does not receive full 12vdc power.

here is map readings, ill post this because many books fail to show it.
http://www.fixkick.com/sensors/my-map.html#Jeep

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2004 jeep wrangler 2.4 motor bucks on hills.


W.O.T. MISFIRE< that is what you have.!
is the CEL lamp glowing running , and for sure WOT?
yes, then scan it, get the codes, P0300? P030x? what is it?
DON'T NOT IGNORE THE CEL,
hell, id scan it and look for pendings,!!! and freeze frame fails.
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Ever to a full 60,000 mile tune up? (fuel filter?) not just plugs?
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if fuel pressure is good on hills its not the pressure side. 49psi.
but the car has a fuel pressure regulator, and we test that at the pump test, its part of pump, if not skipped. with gauge, we make dang sure it regulates.
new fuel pump , means zero to me
49 psi pressure now that matters, what if the reg is bad or the
12v power to pump is 6v, bad.
and not doing the leak down test at the pump pressure
test , misses the injectors leaking, or the balance test shows
clogged injector on say #1 . (not equal)


Real tune up done, and no DTC errors store, or pending.

only hills, can be
clogged injectors
MAP reading wrong, (clogged vacuum input to it)
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see page 31 in fuel system section of FSM.
the page is weak, no graph, but 0v (near) is very high vacuum and
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using absolute pressure method not vacuum (which i like)
is 0v is zero pressure (huge vacuum)
is 4.6v at full atmospheric pressure wot, the butterfly TV is wide open.
at keyon, no start the map is at atmospheric, pressure, 14.7PSI
or 1 bar, pressure. (about)
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then its done its job. an the misfire is caused by other reasons.
just one voltage test, and bam. not MAP or clog there.
i check map key on, idle and wot. 3 readings. to prove good maps.
in most cases the clean map works every time. see that its nipple
end is clean, (vac, port)


the ecu reads the MAP and the IAT temp, and computes AIR FLOW
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(fuel injections works just like this on Speed Density Systems)

and makes full power. if spark is good, and compression is good.


if the injectors are clooged, it misfires, if the spark plugs foul, missire
if the injectors leak, again, misfire.
that is how it all works, cept the magic fuel; tables in the ECU.

the scan tool ECT showing, 180F or more holding hot engine?
no , then thermostat is bad and AFR is rich as heck.
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the air temp matches the water.... a very easy trick this test.
by careful observation, key on, no start.
the 2 sensors report in , even key on,. all the time.
using any scan tool (not old)


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