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Top of engine was rebuilt by MB dealer. Now the bottom seems to have a rod knocking. They refuse to honor, any suggestions?

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There was a class action law suite not too long ago,sounds like you have some piston slap going on,short block needs to be replaced-take to a different dealer and tell them that ever since the other dealer worked on it,this noise has emerged

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