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Replaced egr valve. still getting p0401 code. engine is idling rough. thoughts

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  • dnike Jul 27, 2008

    Thanks ernestfortie. Do you mean the tube and cannister that hood up to the throttle body?? How would I check that?? Thanks!

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Is there a steel tube that runs up to the valve cover? If so check to see that it isn't blocked. If it blocks up it will give you a code that the EGR isn't working and mess up the idle.

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  • ernestfortie Jul 28, 2008

    I had this problem on my Geo Tracker and I had to disassemble the entire intake manifold to get to the tube that needed to be cleaned. You will probably have to buy a Chilton manual to help you remove what you will have to.

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How to troubleshoot and repair 1998 grand am with p0401 code .Its supposed to be egr problem.


Trouble Code P0401 is EGR insufficient flow detected. Modern EGR valve are controlled by the PCM. (Powertrain control module) They consist of multiple port orifices that are all different sizes and the computer combines the ports by opening the ones it needs for the desired flow. One clue with this one is a rough idle. If there are no other codes at all then I would say that the EGR valve is not properly sealed or is itself at fault. Carbon builds up on the plenum of the intake and valve. Pieces can break off causing orifice failure. EGR valve needs to be removed and inspected. Gaskets must seal on both sides of valve. May be able to clean valve and ports if dirty but may need to just replace valve...
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Jun 16, 2014 | 1998 Pontiac Grand Am

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Where is the egr valve on a 99 Ford expedition


The EGR valve is in a very difficult spot to work on. If the EGR is bad it will set off the check engine light and make the vehicle run rough or stall at idle. It really doesn't make it run rough while driving or accelerating. What are the conditions when the car runs rough?

Mar 01, 2014 | 1999 Ford Expedition

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Ford e150 codes: p0401, p1401 and p0174. read the more details to see what the symptoms are.


Stop, DO NOT replace expensive parts or O2 sensor! Ford Explorer codes p0174 , p0401 , rough idle and check engine light on. First thoroughly check all of the hoses and elbows connected to the intake and EGR (vacuum system) for splits, cracks, holes or tears, this could quickly cause these codes and fixes for less than $10. Check all connectors and the EGR valve sensor it could have a crack as well, inspect thoroughly because a split sensor could appear attached to the vacuum hoses but hoses could just be sitting there not actually attached due to a split or crack. This was my problem replaced the EGR valve sensor and the two little vacuum hoses attached to them for $50-60 with in stock parts at the local parts store. Took less than 10 minutes to replace and is easily accessible, the check engine light turned off immediately without having to reset the codes by disconnecting the battery, idle became normal and fuel efficiency better. If you have THOROUGHLY inspected every hose, connector and elbow and found no issues, clean the MAF with electrical contact cleaner ( let dry) and clean the EGR with carbon cleaner. A dirty MAF or EGR could also cause these codes to pop up. If this still doesn't work, then consider replacing the EGR, if that isn't it then try the O2 sensor. Good luck!

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Fault code p0401


This error means Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Insufficient Detected.

You can deatils on the following site http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/tabid/122/OBD-Error-Code/P0401/Diagnostics/Hyundai/Default.aspx

but for convenience I have reproduced that information here:
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Generic OBD Error Code Details for P0401 Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Insufficient Detected What does this mean? OBD Code P0401refers to
EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation. It is part of the vehicle emmissions system, and is used to reduce combustion temperature and pressure to control Oxides of Nitrogen. There are generally three parts to the EGR system: the EGR valve, an actuator solenoid, and a differential pressure sensor EGR (DPFE). These things work together to deliver the correct amount of recirculation based on engine temperature, load, etc. The P0401 code means that OBD detected an insufficient amount of EGR. SymptomsPossible sumptoms of OBD code P0401
You may notice drivability problems such as pinging (a.k.a. pre-ignition knock) when the engine is under load or the vehicle is at higher speeds. There may also be other symptoms. CausesPossible causes of OBD code P0401
A code P0401 most likely means one or more of the following has happened: •The DPFE (differential pressure feedback EGR) sensor is faulty and needs to be replaced•There is a blockage in the EGR (tube), most likely carbon buildup •The EGR valve is faulty •The EGR valve may not be opening due to a lack of vaccuum Possible SolutionsIn fixing this code, it is quite common for people to just replace the EGR valve only to have the OBD code return. The EGR valve is not always the culprit. •Use a vacuum pump and pull the EGR valve open while monitoring engine RPM's & DPFE voltage. There should be a noticable difference in RPM's with the EGR open •Clean out the EGR valve and/or tubing to remove deposits•Check the voltage at the DPFE, compare to specified values (refer to a repair manual for your specific model)•Replace the DPFE sensor (with a good quality / OEM one)•Replace the EGR valve Related CodesP0400 P0402 P0403

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The check engine light is on, the EGR valve has been replaced, code P0401 appears on diagnostic. The engine is 4 cyl DOHC 2 wd. slight exhaust odor at times in vehicle.


Are you reset the stored codes there? The EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) valve controls an engine's emission of smog-causing nitrous oxides, or NOx. Its job is to route a portion of the exhaust gases back into the intake manifold. That lowers combustion temperature to below 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit - the temperature at which NOx gases form.

EGR flow is controlled by the engine's computer, which opens or closes the valve as needed. The EGR system is, for the most part, in the "out of sight, out of mind" category, and typical doesn't require regular maintenance. But if it gets clogged with carbon deposits, you'll see your "check engine" light come on, and a code (perhaps P0401 or P0402 or P0403) will show that there is insufficient flow. That typically results from a vehicle being driven persistently on short trips that don't allow the engine to fully warm up. Flow problems also can be caused by carbon buildup due to failure to change the oil frequently enough.

A clogged EGR valve not only results in higher emissions, it can affect fuel economy and cause rough idling - even serious engine damage. Valves can usually be cleaned, but replacement is often recommended.

About thie generic fault code, I suggtes check this description and tips for solution information: DTC-P0401-Tests (keep in midn that this code applied for alot brands, Hyundai included).

Keep us updated.

Feb 09, 2011 | 2003 Hyundai Santa Fe

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Check engine light stays on the code that keeps coming up is P0401 changed egr valve clened out carbon build up also smell gas when first start not driving and fuel millage not as good car runs good though...


Could be a EGR vacuum issue or temp sensor issue

Common Problems That Trigger the P0401 Code
  • Restriction in the EGR passages, usually caused by carbon buildup
  • Lack of a proper vacuum signal to the EGR Valve from EGR Vacuum Solenoid
  • EGR Vacuum Modulator is defective
  • EGR Temperature Sensor is defective
  • EGR Valve is defective
This is from:
http://repairpal.com/OBD-II-Code-P0401-Ford

Jan 31, 2011 | 1998 Chevrolet Lumina

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Egr trouble light


The EGR Valve and System - it's just three letters, but EGR can result in AGGravation.

Common in automobile emission systems since the early 1970s, the EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) valve controls an engine's emission of smog-causing nitrous oxides, or NOx. Its job is to route a portion of the exhaust gases back into the intake manifold. That lowers combustion temperature to below 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit - the temperature at which NOx gases form.

EGR flow is controlled by the engine's computer, which opens or closes the valve as needed. The EGR system is, for the most part, in the "out of sight, out of mind" category, and typical doesn't require regular maintenance. But if it gets clogged with carbon deposits, you'll see your "check engine" light come on, and a code (perhaps P0401 or P0402 or P0403) will show that there is insufficient flow. That typically results from a vehicle being driven persistently on short trips that don't allow the engine to fully warm up. Flow problems also can be caused by carbon buildup due to failure to change the oil frequently enough.

A clogged EGR valve not only results in higher emissions, it can affect fuel economy and cause rough idling - even serious engine damage. Valves can usually be cleaned, but replacement is often recommended.

A code P0401 most likely means one or more of the following has happened:
* The DPFE (differential pressure feedback EGR) sensor is faulty and needs to be replaced
* There is a blockage in the EGR (tube), most likely carbon buildup
* The EGR valve is faulty
* The EGR valve may not be opening due to a lack of vaccuum

Possible Solutions: In fixing this code, it is quite common for people to just replace the EGR valve only to have the OBD code return. The EGR valve is not always the culprit.
* Use a vacuum pump and pull the EGR valve open while monitoring engine RPM's & DPFE voltage. There should be a noticable difference in RPM's with the EGR open
* Clean out the EGR valve and/or tubing to remove deposits
* Check the voltage at the DPFE, compare to specified values (refer to a repair manual for your specific model)
* Replace the DPFE sensor (with a good quality / OEM one)
* Replace the EGR valve

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ENGINE RUNS FINE. SERVICE LIGHT IS ON AND THE CODE NUMBER SHOWING IS PO401. WHAT IS THIS FOR SAYING?


  1. po401 refers to an insuffient flow of EGR gasses
  2. locate egr valve
  3. with engine running at idle
  4. on the underside of the valve you can access the diaphram.
  5. wearing glove if ness
  6. lift diaphram while idling
  7. does engine stall or run very rough?
  8. if not remove valve
  9. start engine
  10. you should hear a very large vaccum leak and exhaust noise
  11. if either are missing investigate cause
  12. if ok reassemble.
  13. locate DPFE sensor
  14. inspect sensor for damage
  15. inspect hose to sensor for damage
  16. replace sensor
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Aug 10, 2010 | 1999 Ford Taurus

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Have a code p0401 how do u fix it , I know it has something to do with the egr system but I,m not sure where its located on my trooper, engine size is 3.5 v6


I have a 2000 Isuzu Trooper that had a PO401 code that would reset and then 2 miles later the light was on again - I found if you remove the EGR valve and start the engine that the engine should idle rough - If it doesnt and you have vacumn at the intake port spray carb cleaner down the port slowly and see how long it takes for the engine to run rough - Keep spraying till the engine dies and spray some more down the passage and let the engine set for 5 minutes and then restart the engine - it will run rough at first but clear out - you should be able to feel the engine RPM change when you put your finger over the intake vaccumn port for the egr - If not then repeat the cleaning method again - If you do feel the rpm change then put the egr valve back on and clear the code and run your drive cycle to see if it is fixed.

Dec 17, 2009 | 2001 Isuzu Trooper

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