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Car won't start and floods

1992 Subaru Legacy Sport - Replaced Timing Belt and lined up the three pulleys to TDC, and now the car is hard starting and if starts, only runs erratically for 2 or 3 seconds and engine floods and dies, even when holdind accelerator pedal all the way to the floor. Spark checks out ok and fuel pump has good output.

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  • Hhaglun Jul 22, 2008

    I wouid like to know if anyone could add anything more to this. Thanks

    1992 Subaru Legacy Sport - Replaced Timing Belt and lined up the three pulleys to TDC, and now the car is hard starting and if starts, only runs erratically for 2 or 3 seconds and engine floods and dies, even when holdind accelerator pedal all the way to the floor. Spark checks out ok and fuel pump has good output. It also had plenty if gas coming out of the fuel filter when I unhooked it. Too much? Also I read somewhere that you supposed to hear a buzzing, or some other sound from the fuel pump when the ignition is turned on. I took the gascap off and didn't hear a thing (If that is the correct procedure) I'll try the SOL. 1 first to see if I can find anything wrong with the fuel pump, etc. Thanks
    Solution #1posted on Jul 22, 2008

  • Anonymous Aug 09, 2008

    I had this problem when replacing my timing belt. It turned out that I did not

    have it set the correct number of teeth between the crankshaft and each

    cam. It is a different number to each cam and I was off by 2 teeth on one cam. It's been a year since I had to battle this and I'm afraid I can't remember how many teeth each way. I found the answer on the computer using google.

  • Anonymous Mar 30, 2014

    i just replaced the timing belts on my car. Everything is lined up perfect. I have a new coil, distibutor and batery. I am getting gas and spark to the plugs but it wont even act like it wants to start. What do I do next?

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Locate your vehicle's computer connector (ALDL), most are on the lower driver's side. In some vehicles you might need to look around a little, on the passenger's side, and around the center console under a plastic cover. For more information, check your owner's manual. This device gathers information that was stored in your carsECM. This information ortrouble code can inform you the system or sensor that is malfunctioning. Look up the code in our diagnostic trouble code chart. After repairs have been made use the code scanner to clear trouble codes and recheck system. B. Testing Fuel Pressure. Test for proper fuel pressure with a fuel pressure gauge. Connect the gauge to the test port on the fuel rail. Fuel pressure reading's very depending on the system your in our vehicle, but most throttle body injection cars (TBI) are between 13 psi and 17 psi. and most (DPI) direct port injection systems are between 40 psi and 55 psi. To find out your vehicle system fuel pressure consult arepair manual. If little fuel pressure is present the fuel pump needs to be replaced.

C. Test for Weak Ignition Spark
. A weak ignition system can be a sign of a failing ignition component. Remove spark plug wire and insert an extra spark plug into end of wire, attach spark plug to engine ground then crank engine. You should observe blue spark between spark plug gap. If a yellow spark is observed, your ignition coil is weak and needs to be replaced. If your spark is not consistent you may need a ignition module.

D. Inspect the Main ECM Relay
. If the ECM relay fails it will shut down the engine management system. This relay carries high amperage and is prone to failure. To test install new relay then test drive to recheck symptoms.

E. Testing the Ignition Switch
. This test requires a electronic test light. When vehicle dies test the power side (+) of your ignition coil with the key on, the test light should illuminate. If your test light is not lighting suspect your ignition switch or ignition relay. To trouble shoot this condition you will needwiring schematic for your car.

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Hi,

If everything else checks out and you have verified the belt routing/cam timing, might it be that the ECM/computer simply needs a reset? To my knowledge, the simplest way to reset is by disconnecting any of the battery terminals with the ignition key switched to 'ON' but the engine is not running. Do this for a few minutes and reconnect, try again. Should this be successful, the ECM/computer would have to relearn.

Hope this be of initial help/idea. Pls post back how things turned up or should you need additional information.

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    Louie Role Jul 22, 2008

    Hi again,

    Please be reminded that removing battery terminal may and could activate some stereo units security system and would require an activation code before being functional again. Pls have your code handy (if ever your stereo requires one).


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Sir,

You can check fuel pressure and Low fuel pressure may cause a lean trim mode so the PCM will compensate by adding more fuel to the fuel injection system to compensate.

Also, remove the vacuum line at the fuel pressure regulator and check for raw fuel indicating a ruptured diaphragm. A flaky fuel pressure regulator may cause longer than normal starting but the fuel pressure check will test it. Check at fuel pump prime, at idle and with the vacuum line at the fuel pressure regulator on and off.

Thanks
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1992 Subaru Legacy Sedan 2WD
2.2 liter SOHC F4 Car won't start and floods - 92759554.gif
First of all, If the belt broke while the motor was running you have bent valves 100% assured as the Subaru 2.4L engine is not a NON INTERFERENCE HEAD designed engine. In other words if the belt broke while the engine was running some of the valves stayed down and the pistons kept going bending the all the valves left in the down position. If the belt broke while the engine was running you will have to do a valve job. 100% of the time. That is the only answer if the belt broke while the engine was running!
If you just replaced the belt for routine maintenance and you are still experiencing this problem read on.

This is the firing order of your 2.2L SOHC 4F engine. If as you stated all the timing belt pulleys where lined up with the marks, The only thing that would cause the erratic activity is the firing order is off due to an accidentally misplaced plug wire, Or the distributor timing is way off. Above is the proper order your engine is supposed to fire in. Check and make sure the wires are right. If they are in the right order the timing belt is Still out of sync and you have probably caused unintentional damage to your valves (pertaining to my opening statement).
This is a link to the best pdf file ever for installing the timing belt and making sure it is aligned properly. It is provided to you courtesy of SUBARU USA. You will need Adobe reader to view this file, it can be downloaded for free from the adobe site:

techinfo.subaru.com/html/downloadSpt.jsp?pdf=STi_PERFORMANCE_TIMING_BELT.pdf-

Before you attempt to start the engine I can not recommend strongly enough to read the pdf from Subaru and make absolutely sure that you have the timing belt aligned properly.
The 2.4L SOHC engine in your legacy is NOT a NON INTERFERENCE HEAD!! In layman's terms this means if you turn over the motor and the belt is off time by more then 2 teeth at any point the pistons will crash into valves that are down when they should be up. This bends the valves and you will have to pull the heads and replace the bent valves. Though this is not an impossible job it is definitely not an easy job or inexpensive job even if you do the valve job yourself. I know from personal experience with a non- non interference engine in a nissan. I did the same exact thing as you and that is why I am putting so much effort into solving this problem for you. I know exactly where you are coming from. I am praying that the damage that happened to me has not been done to you.
If you find that none of the plug wires are mis placed do not try to restart that engine until you are 150% sure the belt is in full alignment. If you find that the belt is off I'm afraid the damage has been done. When you do make sure the timing belt is in time and the motor still runs erratically. You have bent valves and must do a complete valve job on the engine. A compression test will verify this.
If you need any more help feel free to ask me. I don't even care if you don't pick this as the best answer, just make sure you read it like the bible because it is the right and the complete answer and I know this because I lived what you are going through. Anyway, I hope this helps you. If there is anything else you need to know just ask me. I'm here only to help people and teach people. Maybe someday everyone will figure out that is the way to live.
George

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    George Kohler Jul 22, 2008

    http://autorepair.about.com/library/firi...

    Here is the link for the diagram for your firing order. I'm sorry it did not show up when I originally posted it. It looked fine when I uploaded it.

    Anyway I posted a comment for you earlier today and I do not see it now. What was asking still has not been answered yet and this is very IMPORTANT. Was the engine running when the timing belt broke? Or, did you just replace the belt with the engine off for routine maintenance? This is the most important question anyone should be asking you in this situation.

    If the motor was running when the belt broke read this article very carefully. It is describing what happened to someone else who had an INTERFERENCE HEAD designed engines timing belt broke while the engine was running. It is about a ford but it too is a INTERFERENCE HEAD design engine The same exact INTERFERENCE HEAD design as your engine. Do a google search for non interference heads. It will tell you about the difference between these 2 designs. A non interference head design will do just what its name implies. When the timing belt breaks there is no way for the pistons to hit the valves as there is enough clearance for the valve to be all the way down and still not be hit by the pistons. In an interference head such as yours is, there is no clearance in the design so when the valve is down and the piston comes up the crash into each other. The only thing that keeps this from happening is the timing of the engine.

    http://autorepair.about.com/library/firi...

    This guy spent a fortune finding out what I am trying to tell you.
    If your engine was running fine before the belt broke there is nothing wrong with any of the other systems in your car. The breaking of the timing belt will not cause a fuel delivery system problem. The failure of the belt would not cause an electrical system problem. So you can rule these out if the belt broke when you were running the engine. If you want I will call you for free and answer anything you need to know. Send me your number to my username here at gmail. I just want you to get your engine fixed and not pay a fortune following bad advice in this situation. When you read the ford article you will see what happened to the gentleman when he even brought the vehicle to factory authorized technicians. I hope to hear from you soon and make sure you make no other attempts to start the engine. It will only cause more damage to the valves.
    When you read the article you will get cold chills when you read it and see the similarities to the description of the same problem you have encountered.
    I will check back on this every half hour and see if the engine was running was running when the belt broke. I am just trying to save you a fortune in faulty repair attempts.
    George


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    George Kohler Jul 22, 2008

    WAS THE ENGINE RUNNING WHEN THE BELT BROKE? That is the only question that needs to be answered and you will have your solution in my post. Do a google search for non interference head design and see what I am talking repeatedly about. You have an interference head and the valves are bent if it was running when it the timing belt broke broke.The rest of the fuel and electrical systems are fine if the belt broke before the belt failure if the vehicle was running fine before the belt broke.
    George
    Send an email to me with your phone # to my user name @ gmail.com if you need a call to help you further(FREE). I can't type anymore............

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    George Kohler Jul 23, 2008

    Do a google search for:

    Timing belt broke while motor running and read the story about the guy with the ford. It should be the first story that comes Up. His story looks like a zerox copy of your cars symptoms. Read what happened to him because I did not tell him what I've been trying to tell you. I have no Idea why the link keeps disappearing and the link for the firing order keeps popping up in its place but try to get to the story this way. His ford is also of the interference head design, the same design as you. He kept spending useless hundreds of dollars to professionals until he finally found out the valves were bent. Anyway, there is nothing more than can humanly possible to add to this. You know how to get me if you need help.
    George


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U need to go with a professional car repairer

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