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Hi , we have got a 1999 Chrysler Grand Voyager 3.3 LE in good condition but with no power to the cigarette lighter/rear aux power socket. Checked both fuse boxes and both 100%. No reference to the said fuse in either fuse boxes or even the Chilton manual?! Pulled out lighter housing from dash and red and black wiring to it but no voltage. Orange wire to dash light works with side lights.... Lighter is unused so may never have had power?? Many a Sat Nav and DVD player etc waiting for a solution to this - any help appreciated, thanks, Chris

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  • redcoyote333 Jul 14, 2008

    Thanks, battery in tip top condition, residual always >12.6v.

    Could do with knowing which fuse covers the cigarette lighter or whether a circuit breaker is involved?

  • redcoyote333 Jul 14, 2008

    Thanks, but as stated in the original post there is no voltage on the red and black wires supplying the cigarette lighter function

  • redcoyote333 Jul 16, 2008

    Thanks, this was one of the two fuse boxes I have checked. It has a range of small 10, 15 amp fuses together with about a dozen 30 or 40 amp fuses. As, together with the fuse box under the dash, all the fuses are present and intact, with none labelled cigarette lighter. Hence my query as to what else could be be preventing power to this function?

  • redcoyote333 Jul 16, 2008

    I need advice from someone who is expert in Chrysler Voyager electrics...

  • redcoyote333 Jul 16, 2008

    Hi Benimur, thanks, but when I did the voltage check I had the cigarette lighter pulled from the dash, disconnected from the connector and with the engine running there was no voltage on the red or black supply leads...

    All fuses intact and corrosion free, strangely none of the fuses in the engine or the dash fuse box are marked as cigarette lighter and there is no reference to the cigarette lighter in the Chilton manual?!!

    I guess the solution to this problem needs specific knowledge of the cigarette lighter power circuit...

  • redcoyote333 Jul 16, 2008

    Thanks, I thought that cigarette lighters normally have their own high current (min 15A wires) 25 amps fused circuit. This I expected would be independent of other low current interior circuits such as the dash lights or radio. All I need to know is if there is a specific fuse which covers the cigarette lighter (and I'm including the rear aux power socket here) and where specifically on a 1999 Grand Voyager that particular fuse is located?

  • redcoyote333 Jul 16, 2008

    Hi lasvegastech, the 8th digit from the left is R, hope this helps, Chris

  • redcoyote333 Jul 17, 2008

    Thanks, everything else on car working, radio as OE...

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HI,
You have a loose/broken wire or a short in the circuit for the lighter and aux power outlet, and will have to track it down by tracing the wires in the circuit. Your chilton manual will have the wiring diagram to give you an idea of what color the wires are, if they change color from black and red, where they are ran, which circuit they tie into, and any relays they may have. This is such a simple circuit that relays are generally not used, and keep in mind that if one of the sockets is bad, this can cause an incomplete circuit as well. When tracing the wires, if there are no apparent breaks or bad wires, then you will want to use a power tester and test every so many feet through out the circuit until you find the dead area.you can also check the wires to the light with a ohms meter to if no connection you know not connected to nothing..hope this helps you!!..

Thank you!!.. Regards!!..

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Welcome to FIxya

Is there anyother item in the car not working ?

Sometimes if the radio was replaced the people who replaced the radio might of missed 1 wire or messed up and did not hook the wire up you need for the lighter ...i would trace wires and see if any wire not connected and make sure the lighter is pluged in to the fuse box ....oh ya 1 more thing in fuse box check the aux fuse might be one of those big silver ones check it with a ohms meter ....you can also check the wires to the light with a ohms meter to if no connection you know not connected to nothing


hope this helps you out have a good day :)

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  1. in order to answer your question, i need the 8th digit of the vin, from left to right.

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The lighter and aux power outlet in the rear are on their own circuit that is tied into a utility circuit for the fuse in the fuse box. The utility circuit will be one fuse for multiple devices, such as the radio, the interior or dash lights, all of these have more than one device routed through a single fuse. You have a loose/broken wire or a short in the circuit for the lighter and aux power outlet, and will have to track it down by tracing the wires in the circuit. Your chilton manual will have the wiring diagram to give you an idea of what color the wires are, if they change color from black and red, where they are ran, which circuit they tie into, and any relays they may have. This is such a simple circuit that relays are generally not used, and keep in mind that if one of the sockets is bad, this can cause an incomplete circuit as well. When tracing the wires, if there are no apparent breaks or bad wires, then you will want to use a power tester and test every so many feet through out the circuit until you find the dead area.

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Hi,

Often the cigarette lighter is wired to the ACC terminal of the IGN switch and therefore would only work if and when the key is turned to ACC or ON. There are some that are wired directly to the battery's B+12.

Having said that and as you posted no voltage on the red wire but has on the orange (dash/park light) indicates that there is an open somewhere and not necessarily a fuse. Initially, pls try doing again a voltage check with the key set to ACC or ON, if still none, trace the red wire to where it went. It is possible that it went to the master fuse box in the engine bay, if yes, check the connectors. Since it has not been used, it could have developed corrosion on the male/female pair or simply unplugged.

Hope this be of initial help/idea. Pls post back how things turned up or should you need additional information.

Good luck and kind regards.

Thank you for using FixYa.

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    Louie Role Jul 17, 2008

    I have to agree, issue seems to be particular to Grand Voyager. Just a thought; the front cigarette lighter adapter would run with the key to ACC but the rear would be direct to battery B+12 terminal. Have you checked for circuit breakers? Perhaps one somewhere along the steering column under the dash.

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There is an acesory relay located under the hood it will be covered with a black plastic cover remove the cover and there will be a row of relays and some fuses take a close look and replace the correct one thanks for the fiya rating

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    james cox Jul 16, 2008

    ok there is a power junction box undr the hood its on the drivers side of the van under the hood its in a black plastic box that holds relays for alot of things as well as your cigarette lighters

    the relay is called the ( power distribution relay) its for all power outlets in the van ok i think its the 5th relay from the front of big junction box wire going into it is dark blue there is an 86 number near it as well as a c2 controll relay 2 remove these relays one at a time and wiggle them back in tap them with a screw driver handle sometimes this will loosen up a sticky contactor inside and start to work again so for shure look for the relay that says power distribution relay . you might have to replace this relay if tapping it or wiggling it doesnt help have someone use a test light on the wires inside the van to see if power goes there when you remove and reinstall relay ok good luck there may be another relay with the same model number on it if its the same relay in junction box remove it and try it to see if the relay is no good if you follow me bye waiting to see how rating goes to see if its a fixya thanx for trusting and using helpful resourse like fixya

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    james cox Jul 16, 2008

    remenber your looking for a relay for the power distribution center

    this is a fancy word for cigarette lighters ok chris i hope ive been helpful

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    james cox Jul 16, 2008

    hi there red listen i looked into the oem manual for this cigarette lighter problem and the relay for this power distribution center is under the hood on the drivers side under black plastic cover . there is a fuse it is fuse number 8 its a 20 amp fuse .

    there is a relay under the center consel and the relay for the rear cigarete lighter is inside the left side quater panel beside the horn and headlight relay sorry i cant send you a picture of the wire diagram i dont have a scanner to remove it from the book

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Are yu getting power to sockets - if so could be the heating elements As a matter of fact, we have no electrical power in cigarette lighters down here on earth either. you see, while electricity is a modern marvel to many breeds of primates, it should be black letter law to any human that cigarette lighters operate on the principal of an iron derivative contacting flint and producing kinetic energy in the form of sparks.
I suppose it is possible that this question is directed towards the actual space shuttle. in that case, i can only assure the computer generated algorithm that posed this question that no space shuttle has ever been equipped with a cigarette lighter, even back in the 1960s. furthermore, these cigarette lighters are merely an embodiment of current through a resistor, which is the kind of engineering a child might accomplish and certainly not the sort which a space program wastes valuable energy to experiment upon.

Hope that helps...........

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The car battery must not be kept unused for long days.

the charge gets drained.

so please do a recharge

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  • dewan nafees ahmed Jul 14, 2008

    get the full battery unit recharged in some shop.

    this will surely solve your problem sir.

    have a great day.

    good luck


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U need go witha good car mechenic he will solve your problem

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