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My 2004 Montana had a rad leak and its now fixed . That was approx a month ago . The temp gauge runs steady all the time but when I slow down the temp from the heater drops , and when I speed up again it goes back to hot .Today after a short drive and I stopped , shut the vehicle off , went into the store ,when I came out and restarted my van the temp gauge was almost to the red . And it would not go down . It appears to have air in the system , because tonight when I left work to go home it ran the normal temp but done the cool air when stopped again . How do I make sure the system is bleed properly ?

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Cooling problems can be hard to pin down.

Do you know if your electric engine fan comes on? If not they should, if you had the radiator fixed how was it done, new, rebuilt, or some fix a leak in a can? Driving an over heating car will ruin it, while the car is off and has sat long enough for the engine to cool, remove the radiator cap and check the fluid, do you have enough?

If the radiator was removed and replaced something may have worked it's way loose as in a wiring harness that runs the fans, most fans have a plastic safety pin of sorts that keep the fan harness from unplugging.

Another problem may be your water pump, since it's taken a month for you to notice any problem with the car I would not think it needs to be bled. Tho it might need to be.

Take the car to your local garage and have them look at it, if you dont do anything your cars engine can become damaged.

I do hope this helps!

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