1998 Toyota 4Runner
Problem for Toyota 1998 4Runner

What is there to tune-up?




By Superboy60 on Jun 24, 2008

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Around 11mpg, 124,000 miles. How much of this could be the spark plugs, and what else would you check?

Thank you.
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Jun 24, 2008

- Battery has been fine.

Jun 24, 2008

- Can you be more specific?

Jun 24, 2008

- How would shutting off the O/D and engaging the ECT help mileage? Why not just do it now without trying anything else? What would the vehicle's CPU do to improve things after a tuneup that it can't do now?

Jun 24, 2008

- Thanks for the info, but it doesn't address the original question.

Jun 24, 2008

- It is an automatic. Earlier someone sugg that I turn OFF the O/D and ENGAGE the ECT.

Jun 24, 2008

- The air cleaner and fuel filter were prev replaced. There are no wires because the plugs connect dir to the coils. When you rec an intake cleaner, do you mean something like "Seafoam?"

Jun 24, 2008

- Any other opin?

Jun 24, 2008

- What would you have included in a tuneup for this vehicle, if you had done it?

Jun 24, 2008

- Original question...

Jun 24, 2008

- Yes, the key word is "acceptable."

Solution #1

posted on Jun 24, 2008
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maklean

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Solution #2

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kishkane

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mmay be becoz of ur drivin conditions the mileage s dropped down.... did u chk out the tyre pressure.... is ur car overloaded....r u drivin in top gear or not.... mileage depends on everythin... so please chk everythin properly
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Solution #3

posted on Jun 24, 2008
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leethedeuce

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spark plugs/wires. air filter/ fuel filter. I would also clean out the intake with some intake cleaner.
Do those then let me know.
Thanks,
Lee

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Jun 24, 2008

- What sort of opinion are you looking for? Have you flushed the transmission? changed the differential fluid? There are a 100 things you could do.
Keep me posted,
Lee

Jun 24, 2008

- A tune up should involve replacing the air filter, replacing or cleaning the spark plugs, and replacing the distributor cap and rotor. A tune up can also include replacement of the spark plug wires, fuel filter, PCV valve, and oxygen sensor.
That is everything you would change in a tune up.
If you have any other questions please let me know.
Thanks,
Lee

Jun 24, 2008

- You should fine one of these posted solutions more then acceptable. I am not sure what you are looking for? No one can say "open sesame" and all problems are revealed. This is the real world and unfortunately sometimes it takes work to solve a problem.
You should have found one of the experts posts more then helpful and I am sure they would greatly appreciate it if you could accept and rate appropriately.
Thanks,
lee
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Solution #4

posted on Jun 24, 2008
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Pyrhyc

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If you're looking to get better gas mileage purchase a different vehicle. The 4runnner is only going to get 22-24 mpg at best for highway. If most of your drive is in town then 11-13 mpg is about right. There are a multitude of things to consider when trying to get better gas mileage from your vehicle, especially a 4 wheel drive. Besides the running performance of the engine, you have to consider tire size, weight, type of driving, driving conditions, front drive shaft. Most importantly keep in mind it's a 4 wheel drive SUV that isn't made for optimum mpg performance.
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Solution #5

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Midwest-tech

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A typical tune up includes spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter, spark plug wires, distributor cap and ignition rotor. That is what id go with typically.
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Jun 24, 2008

- wait do you think somethings wrong cause of your gas mileage?

Jun 24, 2008

- i can further assist you if need be.


thanks,
Nate

Jun 24, 2008

- A tune up should involve replacing the air filter, replacing or cleaning the spark plugs, and replacing the distributor cap and rotor. A tune up can also include replacement of the spark plug wires, fuel filter, PCV valve, and oxygen sensor.
That is everything you would change in a tune up. you can also change the egr. Even get some brake clean and clean the sensors. I mean there are alot of factors even the gas you use. Your injectors could be clogged. Try some injector cleaner. I mean theres a million and one things that could effect your gas mileage. Like have you checked the compression of your pistons.
If you have any other questions please let me know.

Jun 24, 2008

- As a ASE certified mechanic Theres no magic tip someone can give unless you check everything and have the information to narrow it down. If you've already done a full tuneup then your problem could be more internal. Also if your taking someone else's words for something being previously fixed. I have a saying Receipts or it didn't happen.

Jun 24, 2008

- Have you....
checked your exhaust for leaks? also check the manifolds.
Checked your transmission fluid?
Changed the transmission fluid and filter?
Reset the computer?
Cleaned the O2 sensor?
Cleaned the throttle body and sensor?
Checked your egr valve?
Checked your PCV valve?
Checked for proper Compression?
Adjusted your timing to proper timing?

If not start at the top and let me know...

Jun 24, 2008

- from what im seeing on google you should be happy your +10 with the formulated gas..... now if you see that link and take off a few MPG cause those are statistics of a car sitting in a building spinning its tires. Factor in wind and everything else your down to 11 mpg. 11-14 mpg seems to be good average on google. Dont blame the car, blame the corn. If that dont help get one of 100 aftermarket chip to downtune your car and give you better gas mileage.


I think you have more then attequate information from all the information that is posted and you have more then a full plate to start with. glad i could provide you all the available options to start with.


Thanks,
Nate
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Solution #6

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pierre235

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lock at our tail pipe is it clean pass our finger in it if it black you have too mush fuel not burning it good but if you did a full tune up that the first step in the morning do you have hesitation maybe dirty injector the stuff some people put in the gaz tank is ok but nothing running the engine with fuel injection cleaner good luck p.s iread some the expert personnelly i hate when customer ask a question like our and get redirect to a web site how to drive our car sorry about that from montreal cheers .pierre
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Solution #7

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Tech101

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If you have already done a turne up and have not noticed any difference in mileage make sure the EGR valve is working and the EGR valve passage is not clogged. Alot of cars build up carbon deposits in this area and even if your EGR valve is working it will not be recirculating the exhaust gas enough. The purpose of the EGR valve is to recirculate the unburned gas from the exhaust and draw it back into the combustion chamber with fresh air and fuel. This will improve your gas mileage because you are richening up the mixture and makeing the ECM call for less fuel. This also cools the combustion chamber and reduces combustion chamber temperatures which will allow for more are. This is one of the most overlooked devices which can greatly decrease gas mileage when not functioning correctly because the ECM will try and make up for the lean condition and call for more fuel. Test the EGR valve with a vacuum pump and make sure it is working. If it is pull it off and make sure the 2 passages are not clogged with carbon. If they are you can usually clear them out with an old coat hanger. I would also take it in to a shop and have them clean the fuel injectors. The way they do it is pull the fuse to your fuel pump and fill a can mixed with gas and sea foam that screws into the schrader valve on your fuel rail. Then they used compressed air to build up fuel pressure and run your car for about 5 minutes on the mixture. This will blow out any debris or corrosion inside and on the tips of the injectors. When the injectors are clean the ECM will have more precise fuel control. Keep me posted. If you have any other questions let me know.

One other thing to remember is when engines get alot of miles on them the clearance between the cylinder walls and piston rings begins to loosen and you dont have as tight of a combustion chamber which will cause compression loss. This can cause a drop in gas mileage the worse and worse it gets. You could run a compression test to rule this out. If you go to most chain auto stores that have a loan a tool program you could rent a compression tester and test each cyilinder. Basically you unplug the spark plug 1 at a time and replace it with the compression tool. Then you start the engine and check the pressure. Turn the engine off and move to the next cylinder. They should all be within 10% of each other.

Thanks - Tech101
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Jun 24, 2008

- What sort of answer are you looking for? You asked for other factors besides the tuneup that could help gas mileage and I offered them. Have you had a chance to check the passages? I see you rated me as thanks for trying, Was my advice not helpful? Is there any other questions that I can answer for you?

Thanks - Tech101

Jun 24, 2008

- Your vehicle does have spark plug wires but they connect to coil packs and not a distributor like older vechicles have. Over time the spark plug wires can build up a high resistance in the wire and can cause the spark plug to not operate at maximum effieciency due to voltage loss. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask.

Thanks - Tech101
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Solution #8

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MerlinTech

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compression and clean surfaces are key for a vehicle of this age. I'd suggest that you consider an engine internal coring out, if you really want to improve this one. There are no short cuts.
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Jun 24, 2008

- well, I suppose you can keep milking the experts here until one comes up with a plausible explanation.
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Solution #9

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centralhigh

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You are right about one thing. Your gas mileage is too low for your vehicle make and model. Unless you have the 6 Cylinder, 3.4 Liter, Automatic (4 speed). That vehicle averages between 13-15 mpg.
It sounds like you have already done many things to your car to improve mileage. Air filter, spark plug, fuel injectors and tire inflation have a lot to do with it.
I recommend this site for driving tips to help increase fuel economy: http://www.opentravelinfo.com/travel-guide/uncategorized/how-to-save-money-on-gas-29-tips.html

Can you give me more specifics on your engine and transmission?
Thanks,
Ken
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Jun 24, 2008

- The average nationwide fuel economy for your vehicle is 14.1 mpg. it ranges from 13 to 15. In California the average mileage drops to 13 with an even lower fuel range of 11.5-14mpg. A lot depends on driving conditions and where you are driving. I think you have already considered all of the relevant solutions and I concur with Benimur.
Ken
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Solution #10

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VOTIT

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Most of the vehicles today need a tune-up every 50,000 to 65 miles depending on driving condition,going to checked air filters ,oil filters. I give you site more information about tune-up..
http://carpros.com/how_to/how_to_tune_up.htm

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Solution #11

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Benimur

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Hi,

Have you had a major tuneup? Doing so would have your car's computer scanned (OBD code reader) to identify potential problems or failing components that contributes to the 11 mpg. Most components that affect mileage can include: air filter/cleaner, fuel filter, O2 sensors, catalytic converter, timing belt (slack), fuel filter, throttle body mouth, PCV valve, air control valve/throttle position sensor/MAF, idle air control valve and EGR valve. As you can see, quite a number.

A couple of ideas that can perhaps help improve on your mileage after a major tuneup:
1. O/D off;
2. use the
ECT power switch;
3. don't manual override the A/T;
4. A/C off when not necessary;
5. use 87 octane fuel (you can also try a little higher, 89?);
6. no fuel mix;
7. reset the car's CPU so as to learn new your driving habits.

Hope this be of initial help/idea. Pls post back how things turned up or should you need additional information.

Good luck and kind regards.

Thank you for using FixYa.

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Jun 24, 2008

- Posted were aside from the sparkplugs.
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Solution #12

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kiranj_9

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it may be becoz of ur drivin conditions the mileage s dropped down...... Can you be more specific?
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Jun 24, 2008

- this link may help u.... http://www.carsdirect.com/1998/toyota/4runner
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Solution #13

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hemantraj

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the link i will provide you will help you any type of car problems you are facing

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Jun 30, 2008

- updates?

Jul 02, 2008

- updates?
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Solution #14

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gopi20

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you should check battery and fuse in your car
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Jul 01, 2008

- check the fluid level also check the condition of the all types of valve

Jul 01, 2008

- if this doesnot solve your problem take your car to near by service center to get your problem solved
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Solution #15

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sushantxx

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its may be due to your driving problem

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Jun 24, 2008

- www.essortment.com/all/howtotuneaca_revt.htm
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