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My car has set for a couple years. Has spark, no fuel to inlet side of fuel rail. Fuel pump? How to test and how to replace? Do I have to remove the fuel tank?

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I have pasted pump removal procedures below, but recommend you read the following before going after the pump:
A good first check if fuel delivery problems are suspected is to spray some starting fluid into the intake system while someone cranks the engine. If the engine starts or tries to start with starting fluid, it is not getting fuel. In most modern cars, the fuel pump is inside the gas tank and is also usually sold with the fuel gage sending unit--an expensive and laborious R&R job. If the pump is working, you should hear it at least momentarily when the key is turned to the "on" position. If the pump is not working, the cause could be a fuse, a relay, an accident "kill" switch that needs resetting, or the pump itself. You'll want to rule out all of the inexpensive possibilities first. Use your owners manual (you can often find these online if you don't have the original) to locate the applicable fuse, relay, and/or cutoff switch. To check the relay and ignition switch, follow procedures at http://www.fixya.com/cars/r6022358-relay_check. You can also check for voltage at the pump connector with a test light. (Note, the Talon uses the MFI relay to power the fuel pump. This is a 9-terminal relay and may be difficult to troubleshoot using the above link).
Assuming your pump works, fuel still needs to get to the engine. A clogged filter will certainly limit fuel flow, but will rarely prevent a car from starting. That said, filter replacement is an inexpensive bit of maintenance. Most likely cause of fuel not getting to the engine when the pump is working is the fuel injection system (not an issue for carbureted engines). Injection systems are beyond the scope of this tip, but there are a couple things you can check. Many anti-theft systems cut off the injectors when activated. If you have such a system, make sure your anti-theft system has not been activated. Also, the injectors require a certain level of fuel pressure. Though your pump may be working, it may not be producing pressure. If possible, have your fuel pressure checked or borrow the appropriate tool to test the pressure. Always check pressure at the fuel rail, as some designs include a separate regulator that is typically in the line in the engine compartment. The injectors may be controlled by an injector module or directly by the engine or powertrain control module/computer. The signals sent to the injectors can be checked using a special tester or oscilloscope. A simple but crude method of checking injector operation is to put a long screwdriver on the injector body and hold the handle to your ear while someone cranks the engine. If the injectors are working, you should hear the solenoid click once every 2 revolutions.

Finally, if you are getting fuel to the engine, make sure it isn't old or contiminated.


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Fuel Pump removal Instructions from autozone.com
1990-94 Vehicles
EXCEPT AWD MODELS

See Figures 1, 2, 3 and 4

  1. Properly relieve the fuel system pressure as outlined earlier in this section.
  2. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
  3. Drain the fuel from the fuel tank into an approved gasoline container.
  4. Remove the electrical connectors at the fuel pump. Make sure there is enough slack in the electrical harness of the fuel gauge unit to allow for the fuel tank to be lowered slightly. If not, label and disconnect the electrical harness at the fuel gauge unit.



CAUTION Cover the high pressure fuel hose with rags to prevent splash of fuel caused by residual pressure in the fuel pipe line.

  1. Disconnect the high pressure fuel line connector at the pump.
  2. Loosen self-locking nuts on tank support straps to the end of the stud bolts.
  3. Remove the right side lateral rod attaching bolt and disconnect the arm from the right body coupling. Lower the lateral rod and suspend from the axle beam using wire.
  4. Remove the holding bolt and gasket from the base of the tank.
  5. Remove the fuel pump assembly.

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