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Something got mixed into my brake fluid and has tainted the system. Now apparently I have to basically replace the entire system because it has started to ruin the rubber gaskets, the master cylinder, calipers, and it looks like it has warped the rotors. I own a 2005 Buick Lacrosse and cannot afford the $2500 bill that was presented to me today. Do you know what I can look forward to getting myself into and any recommendations about getting after market products. Do you know if I will need special tools and about how long of a p.i.t.a. this is going to turn out to be? Thank you in advance.

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Depending on your skill level you may be able to replace the individual components - Master cylinder, calipers, flexible caliper brake lines and wheel cylinders if you have drum brakes in the back, You probably had somehow mixed incompatible brake fluids in the reservoir which would cause the problem you mentioned. That mix would also cause your calipers to drag which overheated and warped the rotors. The aforementioned components are the only ones that have rubber in them, requiring the change. However - you will also need to flush out the brake lines with the correct DOT class brake fluid after flushing those lines with brake cleaner which comes in pressurized cans, making that part of the job easier. Please understand - this is a time consuming and somewhat expensive ( depending on the component cost ) job that is involved with many steps to completion. You may want to go to your public library and check out a book on hydraulic brake systems - that will give you a good idea of what you're getting into.
Good luck!!

Posted on Nov 10, 2010

Rotors do not warp. Maybe on a NASCAR Cup Car, when they get red hot,not a passenger car.

Unless you have experience with replacing,servicing,bleeding ,and working on a braking system,the $2,500 is about right.

How did that happen? Jiffy Lube or something.?

Putting a kit in the calipers or replacing them,cleaning out the master and new kit,if they still sell them,and flushing the system, is not an issue. May take you three days,but I spend about a week every year, on my brakes.

The problem and the expense,is the ABS Controller. Big dollar item there.

All the parts you need are avail at any auto parts store. You want to use Wagner,Raybestos or a quality brand

Tools---Flair Nut Wrenches,10mm,13mm,5/16",3/8",1/2'' ETC for brake line fittings etc
Maybe torx drivers for some items, to remove.

You need me, or someone, as a neighbor,to get you thru this.

Posted on Nov 10, 2010

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