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1991 Caprice. Horn does not work and I want ot check the contact switches on the steering wheel. If I disconnect the battery, can the air bag still deploy on me during removal? Is there a safe way for removal?

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since heat caused the problem, i used cold for the fix.....there are several types of canned "FREEZE" that are used for electronic testing...i sprayed the steering wheel--twice. i think it released the weight of the steering wheel cover on the horn contacts...that or my prayers were answered......whatever the fix----currently AIN'T BROKE.....

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USE A SMALL flat blade screwdriver and insert in the back of wheel there are spring clips that release it you will see an opening on each side

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replace the clock-spring ribbon contact under the steering wheel, that is the problem, u have lost the connection due to a broken ribbon contact.

Posted on Jan 27, 2009

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Usually a lit airbag can be attributed to faulty wiring, crash sensor behind the front bumper, bad connection between the airbag and lower part of the steering column, or a faulty airbag module. I've also heard of clockspring wiring harness problems. An airbag "on" light means that your airbag system is INACTIVE. Be careful. Check for a safety recall. You must have the battery disconnected for at least 15 minutes for a reset and double check your battery. I know it seems simple, but a poor battery will trip a code. 15 minutes allows the SDM (Sensing Diagnostic Module or Airbag computer) to discharge the backup power for airbag. Do this especially if you're poking around the controls. It sounds like a bad connection which is not allowing communication between all parts of the system. Also check the fuse (can't hurt).

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You will have to replace the entire clockspring. I highly recommend having it done at a repair shop because it involves removing the air bag which contains a small explosive device and can be dangerous to someone not trained in removing it.

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My horn on my 1994 Ford Taurus doesn't work and the fuse is fine I just reconnected the wire that connects the two small horns but it still won't work.can u give me an idea on how to fix it


Check the horn relay and for voltage at the horn. If you are getting voltage to the horn, then the it could be that the horns themselves are bad.

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I have a 1995 ford crown victoria lx. Had to remove horn relay due to horn started blowing when I would turn. How can I fix this problem cause I really need my horn


It's usually the contacts in the steering wheel behind the horn and air bag. You will have to remove the air bag to access the horn contacts. Make sure you remove the battery terminals from the battery before working on any air bag system! You may have to pull the steering wheel completely, depending on the setup. You can rent the puller from your local parts store. If you can not adjust the wires/contacts for the horn, you may have to buy a new set. Fairly inexpensive, but they may have to order the part, in which you will have to put everything back together until the part comes in, and then start back over. I was able to access mine in my Crown Victoria by just removing the air bag, hopefully it's the same. Hope this helps!

Dec 07, 2013 | Cars & Trucks

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Remove steering column


why not say reason.. ??? is the actual shaft bad,
or just swapping out the whole thing.> with igntion switch and combo switch?
the whole inside parts?
are you removing the steering wheel ?

first hard part is air bags, very dangerous.
and the coil spring, in wheel hub. easy to damage that.
first off major work , you need the FSM. why not get it and read it.

if no bags , good. easier.
the other issue is the
there are 3 critical steps.
1: Bags.
2: ignition switch assy, anthieft screws.
3: collapsible shaft, possible damage.
4: the steering wheel puller and steps. the FSM covers each separately.

wheel. quote
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable and disable the air bag system.
  2. Set the front tires in a straight-ahead position.

  1. Remove the air bag module retaining nuts from behind the steering wheel.
  2. Remove the air bag module. Defeated first !!!!
  3. If equipped, remove the cruise control switch.
  4. Disconnect the horn wiring.
  5. Remove the steering wheel retaining nut.
  6. Scribe a line mark on the steering wheel and steering shaft if there is not one already.
  7. Remove the steering wheel using a suitable puller.
  8. the palm smacking trick can get the wheel off if lucky.
To install:
  1. To install, align the scribe marks on the steering shaft with the steering wheel.
  2. Ensure the wheel compresses the 2 locktabs on the clockspring.
  3. Pull the air bag and if equipped, cruise control wires through the larger hole and horn wire through the smaller hole. Ensure they are not pinched.
  4. Install the steering wheel nut and tighten it to 45 ft. lbs. (61 Nm) while forcing the steering wheel down the shaft with the nut.
  5. Connect the wire feed to the horn buttons.
  6. Connect the feed wires and tighten the air bag retaining nuts to 90 inch lbs. (10 Nm). Ensure the air bag is completely seated. The latching clip arms must be visible on top of the connector housing on the module.
  7. Enable the air bag system and connect the battery cable.
  8. From the right side of the vehicle (in case of accidental deployment), turn the ignition switch to the ON position.
  9. Check for proper air bag warning light operation.
end quote, get the FSM. there are many more pages, for
the COMBO section, and shaft.

Nov 16, 2013 | 1991 Jeep Cherokee Limited

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My question on my 94 toyota pickup 2wd; how can I check to see if the horn contacts are making contact? since the horn contacts are located under the steering wheel, and the air bag is also located there,...


disconnect the negative batery terminal be fore you mess with the horn. the cover should come off easily and you will the wire for the horn on my car the wire is green

Sep 21, 2011 | Toyota Pickup Cars & Trucks

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How do I take the steering column apart? The airbag light is on, the cruise and horn dont work (all on Steering wheel).I also hear clicking when I turn the wheel.


It sounds like your clock spring, as we call it, has failed under the steering wheel. To remove the assembly you must first disconnect the negative battery cable to avoid deploying the air bag. There are 2 to 4 screws on the back of the steering wheel holding the horn pad onto the wheel. Remove those screws and carefully lift the horn pad off and disconnect the wire plugs. The horn wire is usually red and the air bag usually yellow. You will need a cheap steering wheel puller from the local auto zone to remove the steering wheel. They have a small round disc type that is easy to use and cheap. Now remove the large nut from the center of the steering shaft. Install the tool and remove the wheel. Now you will see a large round disc or air bag ribbon held on by a clip. use an pick tool and a small screw driver to remove this clip. Now trace the wires under the column and unplug the other end and you can remove the ribbon or clock spring. Now feed in the wiring for the new ribbon and reverse the process to reassemble. While you have the horn pad off test the horn switch to see if the horn pad is bad and may need replaced also. If the switch is good find the horn relay in the fuse box under the hood and see if when you press the horn does it get power from the switch. to test the horn itself apply 12volts to the two connectors on the horn and if it sounds it is OK. The system is made up of horn, horn relay, and horn switch. Thanks for looking for a solution at Fixya.com.

Dec 01, 2010 | 2001 Dodge Stratus

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I need to put in another steering collum and I dont know how to do it.its a 91 ford F150.hope you can help me.I got another one out of the junk yard for 125,00 is that a good price .thanks for helping my...


I'd say $125.00 is a good price for a steering column.

First, have to remove steering wheel (but I don't have instructions for the steering column. For that, maybe try alldata.com, but that will cost):

STEERING Steering Wheel REMOVAL & INSTALLATION Without Air Bag EXCEPT F-SUPER DUTY STRIPPED CHASSIS MODELS AND MOTOR HOME CHASSIS MODELS Fig. 1: Remove the screws from behind the wheel - F-150 model without air bag 88288p12.jpg
Fig. 2: Pull away the cover with the wiring still connected 88288p13.jpg
Fig. 3: Disconnect the wiring at the steering wheel 88288p14.jpg
Fig. 4: Matchmark the steering wheel 88288p15.jpg
Fig. 5: Remove the center nut from the steering wheel 88288p16.jpg
Fig. 6: Use a steering wheel puller to remove the wheel 88288p17.jpg
Fig. 7: Remove the steering wheel from the shaft 88288p18.jpg
Fig. 8: Correct steering wheel installation 84928058.gif
NOTE: The factory recommends that the front wheels be set in the straight-ahead position and you paint or make chalk marks on the column and steering wheel hub for alignment purposes during installation. Of these two safeguards, it is more important to mark the column so even if the column is moved slightly, the steering wheel can still be repositioned in its original position.
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Remove the one screw from the underside of each steering wheel spoke, and lift the horn switch assembly (steering wheel pad) from the steering wheel. On vehicles equipped with the sport steering wheel option, pry the button cover off with a suitable prytool.
  3. Disconnect the horn switch wires at the connector and remove the switch assembly. On trucks equipped with speed control, squeeze the J-clip ground wire terminal firmly and pull it out of the hole in the steering wheel. Don't pull the wire out without squeezing the clip.
  4. Remove the horn switch assembly.
  5. Remove the steering wheel retaining nut and remove the steering wheel with a puller. WARNING
    Never hammer on the wheel or shaft to remove it! Never use a knock-off type puller.
  6. Install the steering wheel in the reverse order of removal. Tighten the shaft nut to 40 ft. lbs. (54 Nm)
F-SUPER DUTY STRIPPED CHASSIS MOTOR HOME CHASSIS MODELS
  1. Set the front wheel in the straight-ahead position and make chalk marks on the column and steering wheel hub for alignment purposes during installation.
  2. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  3. Remove the one screw from the underside of each steering wheel spoke, and lift the horn switch assembly (steering wheel pad) from the steering wheel.
  4. Disconnect the horn switch wires at the connector and remove the switch assembly.
  5. Remove the horn switch assembly.
  6. Remove the steering wheel retaining nut and remove the steering wheel with a puller. WARNING
    Never hammer on the wheel or shaft to remove it! Never use a knock-off type puller.
  7. Install the steering wheel in the reverse order of removal. Tighten the shaft nut to 30-42 ft. lbs. (41-57 Nm).
With Air Bag Fig. 9: Remove the air bag module and disconnect the wiring harnesses 88288g00.gif
CAUTION
Read the air bag service precautions in Section 6 prior to doing work involving an air bag equipped steering column component. Always wear safety glasses when servicing an air bag vehicle and handling the air bag to avoid possible injury.
  1. Turn the front wheels to the straight-ahead position.
  2. Disconnect the battery-to-starter relay cable for at least one minute to let the air bag back-up power supply discharge.
  3. Remove the air bag module from the steering wheel (refer to Section 6).
  4. Disconnect the horn/speed control wiring from the steering wheel.
  5. Remove the steering wheel retaining bolt.
  6. Install the Differential Bearing Cone Remover/Replacer, No. T77F-4220B1, or equivalent, and remove the steering wheel. Route the contact assembly harnesses through the steering wheel as it is lifted off of the shaft. To install: NOTE: Make sure the front wheels are still in the straight-ahead position prior to installation.
  7. Route the air bag sliding contact wiring through the steering wheel at the 3 o'clock position. Position the steering wheel on the shaft an align the marks. Make sure not to pinch the contact wire. WARNING
    Make sure no air gets trapped between the steering wheel and air bag sliding contact.
  8. Install a new steering wheel retaining bolt, then tighten to 23-33 ft. lbs. (31-45 Nm).
  9. Connect the horn/speed control wiring and clip in place. Connect the air bag wire harness. Tighten the module retaining nuts to 35-53 inch lbs. (4-6 Nm). NOTE: When the battery cable has been disconnected, then reconnected, some abnormal driving symptoms may occur for the first 10 miles (16 km) until the PCM re-learns it adaptive strategy.
  10. Connect the battery to starter cable. Verify the air bag warning indicator light on the instrument panel.
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Sep 24, 2010 | 1991 Ford F150

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My car's horn actives every time I turn the steering wheel. What do you think is causing it to go off?


My 2000 Cirrus had the same problem.

Before I describe how I fixed mine, a warning and disclaimer:
Working on the horn switch, clock spring and steering column requires working safely with the air bag module. An airbag that goes off unintentionally can cause serious or fatal injuries. If you don't know how to handle the air bag safely, do not attempt to fix this yourself!

Symptom: Horn sounds when steering wheel is turned or with slight movement of the air bag module in the center of the steering wheel.

Possible causes:
1. Deteriorated insulators under the air bag mounting bracket screws. (This is what caused the problem in my case.)
2. Warped or bent steering wheel or air bag module.
3. Short circuit in clock spring assembly.
4. Short circuit in steering column due to abraded or pinched wire.
5. Faulty horn relay. (Very unlikely if the horn only sounds when turning the wheel.)

How the "horn switch" works: The term "horn switch" is a bit of a misnomer because there is no identifiable "switch" as one might think. The "switch" is actually a combination of parts: The four air bag bracket mounting screws, four plastic bushings and washers that insulate the air bag mounting brackets from the screws which are fastened to the grounded steering column, four springs under the bushings and the metal back side of the airbag module. The horn wire, which comes from the horn relay up the steering column and through he clock spring, is connected to the left hand mounting bracket which is electrically connected to the back of the airbag module which is electrically connected to the right hand mounting bracket when everything is assembled. When the air bag module is pushed in, the metal back contacts one or more of the four air bag module mounting screws completing the circuit to ground and thus activating the horn relay.

Troubleshooting:
1. Disconnect the negative battery terminal on the strut tower under the hood and pull the two 10 A air bag fuses from the fuse panel on the left side of the dash.

WARNING!: WAIT TWO MINUTES TO ALLOW THE AIR BAG SYSTEM CAPACITOR TO DISCHARGE BEFORE PROCEEDING. NEVER DISCONNECT OR RECONNECT THE AIR BAG MODULE ELECTRICAL CONNECTOR UNLESS THE NEGATIVE BATTERY TERMINAL HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FOR AT LEAST TWO MINUTES. FAILURE TO HEED THIS WARNING COULD RESULT IN UNEXPECTED DEPLOYMENT OF THE AIR BAG RESULTING IN INJURY OR DEATH.

2. Loosen the two torx head screws on the back of the steering wheel that secure the air bag module to the wheel. The screws are captive in plastic retainers, so don't try to remove them.

3. Remove the air bag module, pull out the connector lock and disconnect the air bag module connector.

4. Place the air bag module on a flat surface connector side down away from where you are working.

5. Locate the four air bag mounting bracket screws. Look for black gritty debris around the screw heads and inside the steering wheel. This is an indication that the top insulating washers have deteriorated allowing the mounting brackets to short out to the screws.

6. Now reconnect the battery negative lead and do the following tests:

a. Move the left hand bracket slightly. If the horn sounds, then the top side insulating washers are either gone or deteriorated. If you want to test the right hand bracket, you will need to connect a jumper wire between the brackets. If one washer is cracked or missing, it is likely they all are.

b. Disconnect the horn wire from the left hand bracket. Start the car and turn the steering wheel to the stop in both directions. If the horn still sounds, then you have either a bad clock spring or a short circuit in the steering column.

The repair if the insulating washers are bad:

The official Chrysler repair manual says to replace the steering wheel (about $260); however, there is a cheaper solution.

1. Remove the four air bag bracket mounting screws, bushings, springs and the two brackets, paying careful attention to how they are assembled so you can re-assemble them later.

2. Clean any debris, dirt and grease from the brackets and undersides of the screw heads.

3. Purchase or fabricate some thin insulating (plastic) washers to replace the ones that deteriorated, which unfortunately you cannot buy from Chrysler. I insulated my brackets and screws with kapton insulating tape plus some very thin plastic washers I cut from some blister pack packaging scrap (probably clear polystyrene). This plastic is very thin, but still is pretty tough. Some hollow punches are handy for punching the holes and making nice round washers, but you could probably do it with small scissors or your wife's scrapbook punches if you are careful.

4. Reassemble the air bag mounting brackets to the steering wheel placing the new insulating washers and/or tape between the screw heads and brackets.

5. Reconnect the horn wire to the left hand bracket and move the bracket around a bit. If the horn doesn't sound, then you likely have fixed the problem. Once again, to test the right hand bracket, you need to jumper the left and right brackets together.

6. Disconnect the negative battery lead and wait at least two minutes before proceeding to ensure the air bag capacitor is discharged.

7. Reconnect the air bag connector to the air bag module and insert connector lock.

8. Reassemble the air bag module to the steering wheel.

9. Reconnect the negative battery lead and test the horn. It should blow only when the air bag module is pushed in. Start the car and turn the wheel to both extremes to test the repair.
If the horn sounds continuously, then the washers you put in are two thick causing the air bag module to rest on the screw heads.

10. Turn the car off and reinsert the two 10 A air bag fuses, then restart the car and make sure the air bag light comes on briefly then goes off.

Hope you find this helpful.

Aug 31, 2010 | 2000 Chrysler Cirrus

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1991 mercury grand marquis, the horn started honking by itself and won't shut off, I had to disconnect the horn wires. what could cause this?


The switch is behind the air bag. You can disconnect eh negative battery cable for a few hours, then pull the SRS fuse, then remove on the back of the steering wheel, remove the screws and the SRS bag, then check the horn switch and wires. The switch or the spring could be bad.

Mar 19, 2010 | Mercury Marquis Cars & Trucks

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Needs key cylinder replacement


This first post is WITH AN AIR BAG:



With Air Bag Before removing the steering wheel, disable the air bag system
Disarming the System To disarm the air bag system, simply disconnect the negative battery cable from the battery. Isolate the battery cable by taping up any exposed metal areas of the cable. This will keep the cable from accidentally contacting the battery and causing deployment of the air bag. Allow the system capacitor to discharge for at least 2 minutes, although 10 minutes is recommended, to allow for the dissipation of any residual energy.

CAUTION Before removing the steering wheel, disable the air bag system (refer to Section 6). Failure to do so could result in accidental air bag deployment and possible injury.


  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable and disable the air bag system.
  2. Set the front tires in a straight-ahead position.
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Exploded view of the air bag module mounting

  1. Remove the air bag module retaining nuts from behind the steering wheel.
  2. Remove the air bag module.
  3. If equipped, remove the cruise control switch.
  4. Disconnect the horn wiring.
  5. Remove the steering wheel retaining nut.
  6. Scribe a line mark on the steering wheel and steering shaft if there is not one already.
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Use a puller to separate the wheel from the column

  1. Remove the steering wheel using a suitable puller.
To install:
  1. To install, align the scribe marks on the steering shaft with the steering wheel.
  2. Ensure the wheel compresses the 2 locktabs on the clockspring.

Oct 11, 2009 | 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee

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Repair horn assy how do you remove the assy


Are you speaking of the horn? Or the horn relay? Or the horn button? Or the horn button split ring armature? To remove the horn assembly in the steering wheel you will need a steering wheel puller and a U shaped clamp that will screw down to the steering bolt you will need a 3/4 socket with a 3-inch extension and a ratchet. You will also need to picks to pull center snap ring off to get to the parts under the plate for the horn. To remove you will need to buy 2 security nuts tork wrenches #8 I believe, you will have to disconnect the battery before working on it as the bag could explode if you do not have the battery disconnected. After removing the positive side of battery cable wait 5 minutes before proceeding. Then remove the two bolts that hold the front horn assembly and air bag from the rear of the steering wheel next remove horn air bag assembly and disconnect the wire for the air bag. Place horn to the side then remove the 3/4 bolt out from the center, next install steering wheel puller on the steering wheel and put in three bolts and tighten them evenly so that the puller is on straight. Screw center bolt into the steering bolt until the wheel comes loose, remove steering wheel and place it at the side, next use the U shaped clamp to press the center plate down 1/4 inch to be able to clear the snap ring around the steering wheel. With one pick hold the ring in place with the other force it between the steering wheel bolt and work the ring up and out of the grove it sits in. Next work it all the way up till you have it in your hand, and do not lose. Now pull plastic plate off if you put the wheels straight then it will go on the same way you pulled it off because it's keyed mark it with a felt tip pen so you don’t have to hassle with keying it in again. Next remove the plate and there you will find the horn contacts and the round disk that the connectors push against, so if you need more info just ask on this post.

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