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Car starts with remote car starter but will not start with the ignition key

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  • denis Nov 10, 2010

    #1 yes this a crank no start issue.
    #2 no the theft light does not go out.
    #3 tried the 2 keys same result.
    After starting with remote the theft light keeps flashing for awhile.

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When it will not start with the key, is this a crank no start issue ?

If you turn the key from off to run ( do not start ) does the theft light on the cluster go out ?

If not, try a different key. I am working from an assumption that the PATS key is not registering with the HEC for some reason, this is why the try another key. The remote start has a PATS bypass

Please post back with the answers to the questions, and the results of the 2nd key testing

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  • denis Nov 10, 2010

    #1 yes this a crank no start issue
    #2 no the theft light does not go out.
    #3 tried 2 keys same results.
    I do not mind even disabling remote if I am sure the key would work to start the engine.

  • Steve S
    Steve S Nov 12, 2010

    This sounds like an issue with the PATS transceiver ( the antenna loop around the ignition ) issue. Did this get moved recently ? If the PATS transceiver go moved or damaged, the RFID tag in the PATS key cannot get "painted" with power to make the RFID tag be readable ( same way the little white theft tag in a DVD or CD, etc works ).
    At this point you have 1 option, install a new PATS transceiver.
    No point in doing a HEC ( in the cluster where the PATS key RFID tags are stored ) erase and reprogram, as the PATS bypass for the remote start is still programmed and functioning.
    I have only seen this 2 times in 8 years, so it is not a common issue, but can happen

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your cars antitheft system is trying to prevent the car from being stolen so it is shutting it offf after it starts. go back over step by step you installation instructions make sure the ring around the ignition that comes with the remote starter is taped into the exact loacation it needs to be, or the cars own anti theft system will not notice it and will try to shut car off. its an anti theft feature. if this doesn't wotk you will not be able to use this remote starter. i ran into the same problem finally got it to work poperly.

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It's when the security light starts flashing that the infamous "chip" in the key becomes a nightmare to many. Gradually the car begins not cranking anymore or if it cranks it would start and die in a second. Randomly it will do this more and more often until it won't start anymore. VATS, PASSkey and Passlock immobilizer systems are killing cars all over North America, they have a short lifespan and are certainly more effective against owners than thieves. Here is how you save your car
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