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Broken ignition barrel ford laser 1989 model

I have broken the the small piece of metal off that fits from the key barrel in to the ignition switch of my 89 ford laser and want to know how i get the barrel out of its housing to replace with new barrel as i dont know how i have got the cover off and disconnected the ignition switch what or how is the next steps

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  • tony99999999 Jun 15, 2008

    no screw on the housing

  • tony99999999 Jun 15, 2008

    all the emails are the same over and over no help to me yet

  • tony99999999 Jun 15, 2008

    i found no screws or pins to push in it would help if a picture drawing was posted with instructions as i think i must be slow on the whole matter thanks for your help so far

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Hi,

It is not simple, it is tricky and might be messy.
1. To start remove the cover from the column;
2. Next depress the pin;
3. Theoretically, the cylinder should slide right out, unfortunately the pin only depresses when the cylinder is in the run position, but if your replacing a faulty ignition switch that does not turn, it will not work;
4. If you can not turn the cylinder, you need to DRILL OUT THE PIN;
5. If steering wheel is stuck in lock, this may cause the cylinder to further your problems by holding on the the cylinder from the back side;
6. The only thing left to do is pry this thing out and don't worry about all the damage, you can just simply replace it after you get the cylinder out.

Alternately, pls check if your version has the lock that is held in place with 2 or 3 blind (breakaway) bolts and a drive pin. Blind bolts are special bolts that when tightened with the wrench, that part snaps off and it looks like a rivet, so you would need a specialty tool to remove them, the drive pin is hammered in place and needs to be drilled and tapped in order to be removed.. Remove the column covers and determine if on top of the column is a U shaped bracket with what looks like 2-3 heavy duty rivets. These are the bolts with the heads broken off. Use a punch/chisel/whatever to loosen them up enough to turn them by hand/pliers.

The bottomline is seek the services of a qualified professional or should you prefer a DIY, have lots and lots of patience.

Hope this be of initial help/idea. Pls post back how things turned up or should you need additional information.

Good luck and kind regards.

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  1. Disconnect the vehicle's battery cables.
  2. Using the diagrams in the service manual, locate the ignition module.
  3. Disconnect the wires and remove the screws, making sure they are kept in a safe place.
  4. Remove any auxiliary components to reach the ignition module.
  5. Remove any screws and wires connected to the ignition module and remove the old module from its housing.
  6. Replace with the new module, inserting it exactly as the old one was placed.
  7. Reattach any wires and screws leading to the ignition module, making sure none of the wires are loose, pinched, twisted, bent, or showing signs of cracked insulation. Repair or replace any that appear to be damaged
  8. Replace any other parts you needed to remove to reach the ignition module, also checking and repairing or replacing any worn wires.
  9. Close any covers, replace any housing units, and make sure no wires are caught outside of any covers in the ignition module compartment.
  10. Reconnect the battery cable.
  11. Close the hood, and check the ignition. The vehicle should start right up.

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Try to take out the ignition assembly out from its place and then try to pull the broken piece using a magnetic screw driver which will obviously fit in

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Hi,

this is the procedure to remove the ignition barrel:

Remove the steering column surround and you should see a black round thing on the left hand side, this is the ignition switch. Remove this and you will see there is one screw holding the ignition barrel on, remove and you then need to insert your key and turn it to the ACC position. you should now be able to withdraw the barrel using the key but take care not to snap the key off in the barrel.

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The key lock cylinder and actual switch 180 degrees to the left of that, on the left side of the steering column. You need a special tool to remove the switch.

First, remove the steering column cover with 3 bolts at the bottom, facing the floor. Remove tilt lever if equipped. Now insert the key, turn to on position. From the instrument cluster side, insert a small screw driver or tiny punch to push in the retainer, like a door knob bolt in a house, and pull the cylinder out.

Unplug only one electrical connector for the cylinder, or two for the switch. Do not touch yellow wires or any airbag components, though they might have inflated, still be careful, you didn't say, and they keep a minimal amount of power even with a smashed battery

Posted on Jun 15, 2008

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    Maanita Chadha Jun 15, 2008

    Additional info:

    The ignition switch has 7 wires, 2 thin(only for keyhole light) and 5 thick.
    The white\red is positive to battery
    The blue is accessory short The Black\white is radiator fan and water pump short The Black\Yellow is the Ignition short The black\red is the starter motor short
    For ACC positon blue must touch white\red For ON position blue, black\white, black\yellow must touch white\red together For start the black\red must join the above temporarily through a high AMP button or ignition barrel or just together.

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    Maanita Chadha Jun 15, 2008

    This if for ford 89 Aerostar you can refer this will help:



    Here goes/to remove/rotate lock cylinder to lock position.if equipped with tilt steering remove upper extension shroud.remove ignition switch connector then drill out break off bolts connecting the switch with a 1/8 in drill bit remove the two screws from actuator pin. to install rotate key to run positioninstall switch by aligning holes on switch casting with holes in lock cylinder install break off bolts and tighten until heads shear off. have alot of patience.

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You your self can do it its simple do not call an technician. i will definatly guide you just let me know from where it is exactly broken.

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    hemant somaiya Jun 15, 2008

    iam waiting let me know .please reply.

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    hemant somaiya Jun 15, 2008

    it is just with the the help of screwdriver ,clippers,properlight.just open the screw and pull it with clippers.

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    hemant somaiya Jun 15, 2008

    my friend had posted this to me he was having the same problem and he got it solved very easily. he writes



    My ignition seized on what was the hottest day of December 2006. It had been baking in the sun for about one hour until I got to it to try and turn the key.


    Hot and flustered I called the NRMA. I was lucky enough to have an NRMA guy who actually knew what he was doing. He told me that the barrel fails on really hot days and that it is an exceeding common problem. At some point ever Astra's ignition will seize. It is a matter of when not if. Mine went at roughly 69,000 kms.


    He also told me if I had it towed to Holden it'd cost me a grand, they would replace it and I would have this problem again in a few years. The part is faulty. So a new part = a new fault. Instead he referred me to City Wide Locksmiths (Sydney). Unfortunately they were busy and couldn't get out for 4 hours.


    When they did arrive, it took them all of about 10 minutes. They said they had done 20 odd in the last two months and were now such experts they could do it in their sleep. One of the guys told me he was going to manipulate the barrel I had so it wouldn't happen again. He said to replace would mean this problem yet again (as the NRMA told me).


    A cheap $120 later I had the same barrel as before with one minor difference.When I turn the key to the off position it pops out a little instead of staying there. In other words I can't listen to the radio when the ignition is completely off. If I turn to accessories I can... No big deal right.


    Since then I have found that the key turns easier in the lock and my car baked in the heat all day today and it didn't seize at all.


    The moral of this story ... don't go to Holden ... they are not locksmiths, they're mechanics. If you have a lock problem see a locksmith.

    this will definatelyhelp u. appreciate this solution.

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    hemant somaiya Jun 15, 2008

    i am waiting for your reply did you really got some help with this solution let me know so i can feel its working.

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    hemant somaiya Jun 15, 2008

    still waiting for your reply.

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    hemant somaiya Jun 15, 2008

    its not hard to change uyour self can do but if goes something wrong it will damage some thing else and create some other still you have proper technical knowledge and proper instruments go for it as you are going to replace it with new you can damage the old one and remove it quickly but if feeling risky do not go for it. call the nearest locksmith of your area and doit.my friend has still not faced any problem.my friend is using the same old one after removing.

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    hemant somaiya Jun 15, 2008

    reply me what exactly you thought you are going to do it yourself or call someone.reply me

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