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I have a 2002 neon 5 speed and when I take my foot off the gas pedal the car jerks and surges what could cause this? It is worse at higher speeds and it causes the steering wheel to vibrate. I have replaced power steering pressure switch and power steering pump, had alignment checked, had axles checked, and tie rods and motor mounts. I have had this problem for close to a year and no one seems to know what it is please help.

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  • Scott Carper Nov 04, 2010

    The clutch grabs when it is almost all the way out. Does that mean it needs ajusted? How will I know if the clutch needs replaced? Will a bad clutch cause the steering wheel to vibrate too?

  • Scott Carper Nov 04, 2010

    Would dirty injector cause the steering wheel to vibrate when the car surges? Could it be a bad clutch? or bad steering gear?

  • Scott Carper Nov 04, 2010

    If it isn't the fuel injector what else could it be? Could it be a bad clutch?

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Your said the car is a 5 speed does the Clutch grab near the floor or when then the pedal is just about all the way out if its out of adjustment or need to be replaced when you let off the gas it causes the engine to surge to keep from stalling

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  • richard liberti Nov 04, 2010

    its possible that the clutch needs replacing if it wore it could be threwing it out of balance as for the injectors run some cleaner in your gas, the car is 8 years old thats a long life for a clutch

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The car is fitted with a fuel cutoff switch,so anything over 1800 revs no fuel is going through the system when you take your foot off the gas.(more noticeable in lower gears)so you will feel a ****/surge as the car stalls/takes off,stalls/takes off.it could be that the torque of the engine is lifting/dropping the front of the car as it does this and is making your car feel awful.also dirty injectors would not help this situation.try redexe/wynns.@1 can to 1/2 tank.may help.(this may NOT be the case but as several customers have the same symptoms with different cars,im guessing that IT MAY HELP a little.)

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  • geoff hunter Nov 04, 2010

    the clutch will, in no way, effect the steering. or make the car vibrate at higher road speeds,more like tickover or just above.it is possible that a dirty injector would cause a vibration at LOW engine speeds but the faster the engine goes the less likely this will be.
    BUT if the wheel bearings needed replacement,the wheels need balanceing, or the track rod ends were worn,this could,in conjunction with the cut off valve,be the problem.

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Fuel injectors may be clogged. You can get fuel injector cleaner from auto parts store, walmart...etc. pour it in the gas tank.

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My question: what can cause the car to do this?


I assume the car you are talking about is your 1968 Dodge Dart GTS with a 4-speed manual transmission. The engine has a special camshaft, Chrysler P/N 312044, which has a 60 degree overlap in the valve timing, since the engine is built to rev in excess of 6,000 RPM. The problem with your car is obviously a leaky accelerator pump. Why don't you get a car that (1) does not have to run on premium gas (because of its 10.5:1 compression ratio), and (2) uses fuel injectors instead of a wild 4 barrel carburetor made for 1/4 mile drag racing? I happen to know that that is the car you are referring to, because you did NOT say that it WASN'T!

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Car surging


Is the car equipped with the Automatic Transmission?
If so, read on.
Otherwise skip to the end and answer some questions.

POSSIBLE SCENARIO:
I have observed a condition where my car surges slightly when the torque-converter clutch (TCC) cycles between lock and unlock when driving on an uphill grade.
First some basics and history that will explain why the TCC is used.

Engine, Torque Converter, TCC, and Transmission relationship--
The TCC allows for a solid connection between the engine and transmission which allows the input to the transmission to rotate at the same speed as the engine.
Without a TCC, there is slippage between the engine and automatic transmission. The slippage is greatest at low engine RPM. That is what allows the engine to run with the automatic transmission in gear, like when you first shift into gear or stop at a stop sign. When the throttle pedal is depressed, the engine RPM begins to increase and the torque converter begins to slip less and less the more the engine RPM increases. The car moves. But even at cruising speeds the torque converter slips slightly. Engine RPM is greater than transmission input RPM, which is realized as slight decrease in fuel efficiency.
When acceleration is complete and a constant speed is being maintained, the engine power output is reduced to the point where the TCC can engage and eliminate any slippage between the engine and transmission. If the car has a tachometer the engagement of the TCC can be verified when a slight reduction in engine RPM observed without a corresponding change in vehicle speed.
One method used to test the operation of the TCC is as follows:
Find a flat section of road where it is safe to perform the test.
Reach a steady speed and keep the gas pedal depressed with one foot. While observing the tachometer (or listening for an increase in engine RPM), with the other foot depress the brake pedal enough to activate the break light switch but not enough to engage the brakes. When the brake light switch activates, the TCC receives a signal to disengage. With the gas pedal being held steady, release the brake pedal and the engine RPM should decrease when the TCC engages.
Old cars with Automatic Transmissions did not use a TCC. I believe the TCC was put in use in an attempt to increase fuel economy.

MY EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR SYMPTOMS
The condition that causes that issue on my car is this:
- A slight uphill grade increases the load on the engine.
The car tends to gradually slow and it is necessary to depress the gas pedal to maintain speed.
- Depressing the throttle pedal (manually, or automatically with cruise control engaged) signals the torque converter clutch to unlock when the load increases slightly. (A more drastic load increase would signal the Transmission to downshift to a lower gear.) The corresponding increase in engine RPM and output is enough to compensate for the reduction in speed. When the vehicle speed, engine RPM, and throttle position stabilize to the point that the TCC will engage and the engine RPM will reduce in correspondence with TCC engagement. Now, if the road conditions have not changed, power output is not enough to maintain vehicle speed. With the increased load caused by full engagement between engine and transmission, and the cycle (surging) repeats itself until the road conditions change.

Does that help?
If not:

QUESTIONS
Please define the symptoms.
What are the road conditions when the surge occurs? (A slight uphill grade?)
What is the frequency of the surge?
Does the engine power output have a noticeable surge?
Is there a speed change related to the surge?
Does the tachometer move up and down with little or no change in vehicle speed?
Are all instrument indication in the normal range?
What else has changed?

Good luck!

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