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Back brake when pulling drums on brakes, how do I loosen drums from brake shoes

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  • rstoddard1 Sep 23, 2008

    from rstoddard1@woh.rr.com , Yes I have the same problem. I took the van to Monroe,brakes and service, They could not get the rear drums off, and so I came home, backed off the adjuster, and tried my self. NO GOOD. I even took a torch and cut the drum parallel to keep the **** and heat off of the inside components, then removing a section about 8" off the circumference. The drum can be shaken, and is not locked up. BUT still will not come free. Maybee C4???

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On drum brakes there is a pad adjustment wheel, use it to back the pads off far enough from the drum that the edge of the drum clears the pads

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Passenger rear brake is frozen or stuck, how do I remove it to inspect springs


On drum brakes there are two reasons for the drum sticking....
the first is excessive dust buildup. This can be loosened by tapping on the edge of the drum with a hammer or mallet. Not too hard though. The other issue is that over time the inside of the drum will get a wear ridge on the outer edge of the drum and this catches on the brake shoes. Sometimes aggressive pulling can remove it. Otherwise, look at the backing plate of the brake assembly. There is usually a slot near the top (or bottom, depending upon where the self-adjuster screw is). You can insert a screwdriver in here and manually back the adjuster screw off to loosen the brake shoes inside the drum. This will allow removal. Remember though, that after inspection, when you replace the drum, you will need to readjust the self-adjuster back out to where it is close to where it was before. Otherwise, you will have uneven rear braking until the self-adjuster compensates, and that can take a while.

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Removal
1.Remove rear wheel and tire assembly from vehicle.

2.Remove rear brake drums from hub and bearing assemblies after loosening the two brake drum screws.
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3.Be sure that the parking brake pedal is in the release(most upward) position.

4.Completely loosen square nut of the rear parking brake cable. Then create slack in the rear parking brake cables.
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5.Remove adjuster spring from adjust lever and brake shoe.
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6.Remove adjust lever and turn the adjusting wheel of adjuster assembly to the direction of the arrow as shown.
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7.Remove the strut spring and the lower retracting spring from the brake shoe.
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8.Remove the upper return spring from the brake shoe.
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9.Remove brake back plate hold down spring and pin from the leading brake shoe assembly.

10.Remove the leading brake shoe. Then remove the adjuster assembly, strut and anchor spring from the trailing brake shoe.
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11.Remove the trailing brake shoe from the brake back plate after removing hold down spring and pin.
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12.Remove the trailing brake shoe from the rear parking cable.
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13.Remove parking pivot lever from the leading brake shoe.
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Replacement
1.Lubricate the eight shoe contact areas on the back plate and anchor.
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2.Install the trailing brake shoe to the rear parking cable.

3.Install trailing brake shoe on brake back plate and install the trailing brake shoe hold down spring and pin on the brake shoe.

4.Tighten the square nut of rear parking cable.

5.Install the anchor spring then install adjuster assembly, and strut.

6.Install leading brake shoe on brake back plate.
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7.Install the brake shoe upper return spring, strut spring and the lower retracting spring to the brake shoe.

8.Properly rotate the adjusting wheel of adjuster assembly to the direction of the arrow in as shown.
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9.Install the adjuster spring on the adjust lever and leading brake shoe assembly.

10.Install the leading brake shoe hold down spring and pin on the brake shoe.
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11.Adjust brake shoes assemblies so as not to interfere with brake drum installation.

12.Install the rear brake drums on the hubs.

13.Check and adjust whether the pedal stroke in the specification.(Refer to section BR Gr./On-vehicle service/Pedal stroke of parking brake)

14.Install wheel and tire.

15.Push the parking brake pedal to the floor once and release pedal. This will automatically remove the slack from and correctly adjust the parking brake cables.

16.Test the vehiche on the road. The adjust will continue the brake adjustment during the road test of vehicle.

Inspection
1.Inspect the disassembled parts for wear, rust or damage.

2.Measure the thickness of brake shoe lining.
Standard : 0.17 in (4.5 mm)
Minimum : 0.04 in (1 mm)

3.If the shoe lining is less than minimum or shows signs of uneven wear, replace new one.
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4.Measure the inside diameter of the brake drum.
Standard : 10 in (254 mm)
Maximum : 10.07 in (256 mm)
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5.If the inside diameter of the brake drum is more than maximum or shows signs of uneven wear, replace new one.

6.Inspect the lining and drum for proper contact. If the contact condition is improper, repair it with a grinder or replace the brake shoe assembly.
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  • Using Brake Adjustment Gauge D81L-1103-A or equivalent, measure the inside diameter of the drum portion of the rear disc brake rotor.
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First, hit all the way around the brake drum with a big hammer to loosen the drum from the center hub.
Then, istall the screws to help pull the drum.

to back off the adjuster with a screwdriver:

  1. NOTE: If the brake drum will not come off, follow these steps.
  2. Loosen the brake shoe adjusting screw nut (2047).
  3. Using a screwdriver, move the brake shoe adjusting lever (2A176) off the brake adjuster screw (2041).
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1999 nissan quest rear brake shoes need changing


help is here:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/villagerquest/

Drum Removal
  1. Remove the rear wheel and the tire assembly. Refer to Section 204-04 .
  1. Retract the brake shoes and loosen the brake adjuster screw.
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  1. Remove the brake drum.
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May require big hammer to loosen drum from axle flange. Hit between the the lugs, not on them.

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#10 is access plug to back off adjusting wheel.

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Item Part Number Description 1 2261 Rear wheel cylinder 2 — Dust boot (part of 2128) 3 2197 Wheel cylinder piston (part of 2261) 4 — Cup (part of 2128) 5 2204 Wheel cylinder piston cup spring (part of 2128) 6 — Wheel cylinder housing (part of 2261) 7 — Brake shoe hold-down pin 8 — Access hole (part of 2212) 9 — Rear brake bleeder screw (part of 2261) 10 — Access hole plug 11 — Rear wheel cylinder bolt 12 2212 Rear brake backing plate 13 — Rear brake backing plate bolts 14 2N790 Parking brake lever clip 15 — Spring washer 16 — Secondary brake shoe and lining (part of 2200) 17 — Brake shoe hold-down spring (part of 2B514) 18 — Lower retracting spring (part of 2B514) 19 2A637 Parking brake lever 20 — Parking brake lever pin 21 2A177 Brake shoe adjusting lever 22 — Adjuster lever pin (part of 2A177) 23 — Primary brake shoe and lining (part of 2200) 24 — Upper retracting spring (part of 2B514) 25 2041 Brake adjuster screw

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Shoes Removal

Take a picture and remember how each part goes and attaches
  1. Remove the brake drum, refer to Drum in this section.
  1. Remove the upper retracting spring.
  1. Remove the lower retracting spring.
  1. Remove the self-adjuster.
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  1. Remove the hold-down springs.
  1. Remove the parking brake lever clip and the parking brake lever.

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