WIndows don't work and I need to open up the door cover!
I've got a 2005 Liberty and the glass in the back windows keep falling inside the door. It always falls in one piece, so the glass doesn't need replacing, but as a result the doors will not open now from the inside. So I need to open the inner panel up to fix the problem with the glass and see what's happening with the lock.
How do I open up the inner door cover and any ideas on the other problems?
Re: WIndows don't work and I need to open up the door...
First try running the window switch to fully lower the window. Yeah, I know it's already down, but the regulator uses a push/pull cable that has detached from its connection to the window mount. It "pulls" the window up and "pushes" the window down. When detached from the window mount of the regulator, the window motor doesn't know when to quit turning, and so the cable has run all the way through the motor, certainly further than it should be run. If you're lucky, the end of the cable (the end that should normally be attached to the window attachment platform) is still at the motor and can re-mesh with the gears of the motor and allow the motor to pull it back in. When my regulator broke, the cable ran back into the far recesses of the door and tried to seek new paths. I suspect yours has run too far and "found" the latch/lock mechanism and jammed it. By "lowering the window" from the switch, the motor will hopefully pull the cable back out of the places it does not belong.
If that doesn't work to get your door open, you obviously cannot remove the inner door panel with the door shut. So find a used door (same year, model and door position) with the the same color interior at a junkyard. After purchasing the new inner door panel and the two door lock and latch push/pull rods (horizontal), you can cut away your existing panel knowing you have replacement parts on standby. BE CAREFUL NOT TO CUT THROUGH THE WINDOW and LOCK CONTROL ELECTRICAL WIRES! Start the cut across the sill, then pull away as you cut downward so you can see the wires. The predominant possibilities, in this case, are that the regulator cable is still jammed in the latch/lock mechanisms or that the glass rattled out of its track and jammed the latch/lock control rods or broken the plastic levers to which they are attached.
I imagine this advise is too late for you, but it may help someone else. Good luck!
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most windows follow the same proceedure... lok careful at the door pad you will see screws hidden by the inside handle (usualy 1 door opener handle) sum screws are hidden by caps / lil round covers that u pry up with a small pick tool (2 usualy by the inside pull /grab handle) sum you pry up the door switchs and can be hidden underneith) sum may be on the edges , if the lil trim panel that covers the mirror mount (may also have speaker in it )is in the way they usualy pull straight out. (clips on back) when you think all the screws are out grab the lower corner of the panel and give it a good yank this should start the panel coming off (behind you will see long plastic '1 inch ' pin type clips you may find six or 8 as you work the panel back/off) if at any point it feels like its not popping free STOP and look for a screw you missed or you will wreck the door panel!!! power doors will have plugs the go into the switches sum realy **** to remove but careful study should reveal sum kind of release clip or tang you must lift or squeeze . set panel aside when you have it off. but keep the window switch handy you will have to plug it back in usualy twice to align the window holding screws so you can loosen or tighten them when you put the glass back in..that said the panelless door will have a plastic or foam "skin" on it carefuly peel it back ( i use a box cutter blade to cut the sticky stuff if it wont peel back easily, (sum people just cut it and tape it back on after ) this is the dust protector (keeps dust out of cabin of vehicle) once thats removed or folded out of the way plug the window switch in and run either up or down to expose the window hold bolts or clamps.IF REPLACING BROKEN GLASS now is the time to shop vac out all the glass !!!!! it will rattle in the door and drive you crazy if not .ALSO tack a small screwdriver and run it thru the window track that surrounds the door glass IF you leave glass it the track the window will break again and also makes real nasty grindy scratchy sounds. With the glass you buy from an auto wrecker (HELLO BEST PLACES FOR CAR PARTS GOING!!!) clean the glass then look at the opening where the glass goes in if the window "belt" moulding leaves only a small **** to insert the glass pull it up carefuly from one end to remove. dont bend it its not abuse friendly!! tip the glass narrowest end down , most from the outside , and slid it into the door shell,as you get farther in turn and work it into the window track !! dont drop it sometimes the regulator must be lowered down all the way to allow the glass to turn .. watch and set the glass into the holders (some glass has holes some have a track some have plastic tabs ) carefuly tighten either the bolts or clamp what ever style you see in your door! make it snug but dont try to overtighten or you go back to shop vac !! test window for up and down NOTE some doors the window trac extends down inside the door and must be loosend off or removed to accomodate the window going in.remember to install these back in if you have to remove them use the marks left by the screws to reset them back to propper fit test BEFORE you put it all back together. if you are happy with your work .do the belt moulding ,replug things on or atleast pull wire thru the panel ,align the "pins" start at top edge and bang the panel back in (palm of hand punch) NOTE if sum pins stuck in door pry them out and fit them back into panel before putting it back on!! replace screws and you are done as you can tell i've done many door glass replacements most take me an hour to complete including shop vac broken glass off seat and floor n dash GOOD LUCK!!!!!
The window regulator is the mechanizm that attaches to the door and the window glass and causes the window glass to move up and down. This mechanism includes the window lift motor and the track for the cable and the glass lifting plate. The window regulator in your Jeep Liberty looks like the picture below.
Its called the rear glass latch or rear window latch. It would be available thru a dodge dealership, but obviously expensive. You may try a large parts store like Autozone or Pep Boyz. The third alternative is to call auto wreckers in your area. Its the same latch from 2000-2005 Liberty's. It isn't that hard to remove. The rear door panel needs to be removed, then the latch is attached with 2 bolts, and an electric cable.
If you can hear the motor running while pressing the window switch you may have a broken clip or something in the way causing the window to slip off track. If no sound comes while pressing the window button you may need a power window regulator motor "OR" the window button itself may need replacing. If the window was down when it stopped working and had to be manually rolled back up, this can cause the glass to randomly fall back inside the door. This is because the car thinks that the window is still down and will continue to fall until it tells the computer that the window was closed using the power window button. If the window falls at just the wrong angle you could end up having to replace the glass as well.
you will have to remove all the trim from inside of the door, remove the weather seal from behind the trim as well
if it has electric windows you will have to remove the winder as a unit from inside the door
remove any broken glass from inside the door, turn the replacement glass with the narrow end down and slide it down through the top opening where the window glass normally goes in the door
once it is inside the door turn it around so it is in its normal position and place it in the channels where the glass runs, connect the electric winder mechanism and replace everything in reverse order as you removed it
hope this helps
The window has likely come off the track. DO NOT roll the window up or down as it may scratch the glass inside the door. Their in a few screws and some body panel plugs to pull out. They make a special tool for this. I just give her a good yank, If they break don't worry they sell new ones at the dealer and most parts stores.
You will need to Remove the Door Panel. Look for Screws and Screw Hole Covers first. Start at the Bottom of the Panel and work your way up. There are Holes in the Door Behind this that will allow Access to the Window and Components. Just look and see if the Glass is Off Track. If it is Use Clear Silicone and Reinsert the Glass. Roll it up all the Way and wait 24 hour or more for it to Dry before you roll it down again. If it is a Belt or something, You will be able to see it. If it is gone, Reach down inside the Door at the Bottom and Locate it.
The only way to get the lock back is to take the door panel off the inside. There is a C-ring or E-ring that goes around the lock cylinder to hold it in the hole. Did some one punch it in to get the door open? There may be damage done. The lock cylinder may keep falling in if the hole is now to big. The lock cylinder goes in from the outside and the clip holds it from falling out of the door. It does not fall into the door very easily. If you take it to an auto glass place they can get the door panel off and on for you for a fair price. You do need a special tool to get the panel off without breaking the clips. You can rip it off and break the clips and purchase new ones from the dealer, an auto parts store or a window specialist. Hope this helps. If you have any more questions post them here I will check back again later.
The window regulator (the track part) probably has failed. The motor and regulator might come together. It is easy to replace. Hardest part is getting the door panel off, which you've already done. Just unbolt glass from reg, slide up out of the way, tape glass up so it doesn't fall on your hands while your working with the reg. Unbolt reg from door and tilt down to remove from door. There should be an opening in the door to bring it out or you may have to remove a speaker. Just be careful working with the glass.